Game over? EA Sports MMA 'appears to be more or less DOA at retail' stores |
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BlueSkiesBurn
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Posted by prozacnation1978
I was planning on buying it. But now if its not that great
And no more EA games coming out. Why bother then
So you're going to base your decision to buy it off of one article?
Wow. I could sell you the world.
Isn't that a song from Aladdin?
That's "A Whole New World"
The lyrics are:
I can show you the world
Shining, shimmering, splendid
Tell me, princess, now when did
You last let your heart decide?
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Post #16 10/25/10 7:22:13PM
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danr83
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UFC Undisputed is much better anyway, good riddance.
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Post #17 10/25/10 7:38:14PM
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mrsmiley
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I'm interested to hear an "official" word from EA before anyone jumps to conclusions. EA head Peter Moore stated in one video interview (something along the lines of) " they where well aware this will be an uphill struggle and that it will take consecutive releases before they see the results they expect "
Keep in mind that's not a direct quote but it was something very close to that.
Whether EA sticks by those guns is yet to be seen but THQ's second release of its Undisputed franchise did have a unpresidented drop off record and according to one report someone posted here on the playground quickly became the fastest traded in game of the year. The sells where good from what I remember but not stellar enough for THQ to continue releasing yearly releases, and this was with well known "name" fighters to boot. The video game industry seems to have a love/hate relationship with MMA games and the last 2 released MMA games prove that in their own ways.
If this was to be EA's only MMA game it's a crying shame. Most people compare the game to THQ's sophmore effort in Undisputed 2010 when I feel it should be compare to 09. Despite it's drawbacks, I can only smile when imagining what a second or even third game could hold in store if EA continued.
The first effort had a much better imagined career mode. A ton of nick names and real names that Undisputed is desperatley lacking (though THQ definently has the better CAF mode), and imo, has a much better game engine. Too many times in 09 and 2010 most matches became more akin to kickboxing matches. Not to mention a very laggy online mode.
I 'm very interested to see if the people at EA stick by the words and weather it out or if they drop out of the race altogether.
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Post #18 10/25/10 8:17:36PM
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I would also like to say that I think EA has it right with you can actually fight to a decision in this game. In Undisputed fighting to a decision is something I actually find very hard to do. I think that should be one of the achievements/trophies "fight to a decision" 
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Post #19 10/25/10 8:49:09PM
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xtra_chewy
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I'm on the UFC > EA bandwagon. Fallout: New Vegas has been controlling my life too much for me to think about playing an MMA game....
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Post #20 10/25/10 9:44:20PM
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Aleks_Smash
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I love the game. i bought it early. there are things that it lacks CAF wise but still the game play i feel is better. i wont be purchasing another UFC game again, as long as there are EA games that is.
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Post #21 10/25/10 10:03:40PM
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bjj1605
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Posted by mrsmiley
I'm interested to hear an "official" word from EA before anyone jumps to conclusions. EA head Peter Moore stated in one video interview (something along the lines of) " they where well aware this will be an uphill struggle and that it will take consecutive releases before they see the results they expect "
Keep in mind that's not a direct quote but it was something very close to that.
Whether EA sticks by those guns is yet to be seen but THQ's second release of its Undisputed franchise did have a unpresidented drop off record and according to one report someone posted here on the playground quickly became the fastest traded in game of the year. The sells where good from what I remember but not stellar enough for THQ to continue releasing yearly releases, and this was with well known "name" fighters to boot. The video game industry seems to have a love/hate relationship with MMA games and the last 2 released MMA games prove that in their own ways.
If this was to be EA's only MMA game it's a crying shame. Most people compare the game to THQ's sophmore effort in Undisputed 2010 when I feel it should be compare to 09. Despite it's drawbacks, I can only smile when imagining what a second or even third game could hold in store if EA continued.
The first effort had a much better imagined career mode. A ton of nick names and real names that Undisputed is desperatley lacking (though THQ definently has the better CAF mode), and imo, has a much better game engine. Too many times in 09 and 2010 most matches became more akin to kickboxing matches. Not to mention a very laggy online mode.
I 'm very interested to see if the people at EA stick by the words and weather it out or if they drop out of the race altogether.
The drop off record was likely because of the unprecedented sales of the first game. 2009 was an unquestionable success, people probably didn't think much would've changed for 2010.
Also, if people were to compare it to 2009 you'd likely hear even worse reviews considering many people preferred the first game to the second.
The way I compare the two games is this way: UFC 2010 has gotten the meat and potatoes perfectly (the real substance which is game play, CAF, ect.) but is lacking in the bells and whistles (menus, interesting career mode). EA MMA has gotten the extra stuff down (graphics, fun fighter entrances) but completely missed the important part (fun realistic game play).
EA MMA is too basic and way to unrealistic. Playing it is more like a chore than an entertaining experience. I doubt they can stay in the market. Their only hope was to have an awesome game (to make up for the lack of name recognition). Instead they came out with Fight Night Round 4 (the very worst game in the series) again and made some transitions to make it an MMA game.
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Post #22 10/26/10 1:42:57AM
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jay98107
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Posted by Bowen50
Posted by gartface
That's a shame.
especially when EA put out a better product than the UFC and THQ in my opinion.
I really think this game is a lot better than the UFC game, but that's just me
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Post #23 10/26/10 2:08:08AM
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postman
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Posted by BlueSkiesBurn
Posted by gartface
Posted by emfleek
Posted by prozacnation1978
I was planning on buying it. But now if its not that great
And no more EA games coming out. Why bother then
So you're going to base your decision to buy it off of one article?
Wow. I could sell you the world.
Isn't that a song from Aladdin?
That's "A Whole New World"
The lyrics are:
I can show you the world
Shining, shimmering, splendid
Tell me, princess, now when did
You last let your heart decide?
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Post #24 10/26/10 8:36:27AM
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Buy the ticket, take the ride
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I don't get the shock factor of EA's game not doing that well. To most of the world MMA is UFC.
EA would have had to put out a game 100x better than what THQ have produced to even compete with UFC 2010 as well as ran a huge promotion campaign!
As it stands its produced a product that can by all standards compete with THQ's but it lacks the character recognition, brand power, the marketing that THQ's game got and TV hype from TUF!
I personally think its doesn't play as well as UFC 2010 or have the same level of depth but opinions aside it was never going to do as well and I'd honestly be shocked if they released another one.
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Post #25 10/26/10 8:53:36AM
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FlashyG
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EA should have known better than to make the major mistake they made.
They underestimated the power of the UFC's brand. Making an MMA game without the UFC in it would be like making a baseball game for just the AAA teams. Even if the game is better its not going to sell.
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Post #26 10/26/10 11:07:21AM
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mrsmiley
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Posted by bjj1605
Posted by mrsmiley
I'm interested to hear an "official" word from EA before anyone jumps to conclusions. EA head Peter Moore stated in one video interview (something along the lines of) " they where well aware this will be an uphill struggle and that it will take consecutive releases before they see the results they expect "
Keep in mind that's not a direct quote but it was something very close to that.
Whether EA sticks by those guns is yet to be seen but THQ's second release of its Undisputed franchise did have a unpresidented drop off record and according to one report someone posted here on the playground quickly became the fastest traded in game of the year. The sells where good from what I remember but not stellar enough for THQ to continue releasing yearly releases, and this was with well known "name" fighters to boot. The video game industry seems to have a love/hate relationship with MMA games and the last 2 released MMA games prove that in their own ways.
If this was to be EA's only MMA game it's a crying shame. Most people compare the game to THQ's sophmore effort in Undisputed 2010 when I feel it should be compare to 09. Despite it's drawbacks, I can only smile when imagining what a second or even third game could hold in store if EA continued.
The first effort had a much better imagined career mode. A ton of nick names and real names that Undisputed is desperatley lacking (though THQ definently has the better CAF mode), and imo, has a much better game engine. Too many times in 09 and 2010 most matches became more akin to kickboxing matches. Not to mention a very laggy online mode.
I 'm very interested to see if the people at EA stick by the words and weather it out or if they drop out of the race altogether.
The drop off record was likely because of the unprecedented sales of the first game. 2009 was an unquestionable success, people probably didn't think much would've changed for 2010.
Also, if people were to compare it to 2009 you'd likely hear even worse reviews considering many people preferred the first game to the second.
The way I compare the two games is this way: UFC 2010 has gotten the meat and potatoes perfectly (the real substance which is game play, CAF, ect.) but is lacking in the bells and whistles (menus, interesting career mode). EA MMA has gotten the extra stuff down (graphics, fun fighter entrances) but completely missed the important part (fun realistic game play).
EA MMA is too basic and way to unrealistic. Playing it is more like a chore than an entertaining experience. I doubt they can stay in the market. Their only hope was to have an awesome game (to make up for the lack of name recognition). Instead they came out with Fight Night Round 4 (the very worst game in the series) again and made some transitions to make it an MMA game.
I find the gameplay very fun with EA mma .I find it fun with Undisputed as well(despite the frustrations I find with it). I don't see the subject as black and white. This one bad. This one good. I think what EA was going for was to look at what MMA fans found wrong with THQ's product and try to correct it with their own product,yet make it fresh at the same time. With Undisputed I felt the feel was too much like an arcade game. Strategy was second to just making a fight a stand up war. That was okay. Aften a while you find the rust and vunerable spots in any video game. With Undisputed it just seem to happen a lot quicker than I would have hoped.
I prefer 2010 to 09. The problem that I have with 2010 is that everything in it should have been in 09. I think THQ thought Undisputed could work as a yearly title just like RvsS, but didn't take into consideration the differnce in fans and the differnce in what a wrestling game brings in against what an MMA game brings. I think THQ is really going to have to bring it for their next release or just hope holding out an extra year or two will make people buy a UFC game no matter how Identical it is to the previous version.
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Post #27 10/26/10 3:14:33PM
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BigBadAl
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Posted by emfleek
Posted by prozacnation1978
I was planning on buying it. But now if its not that great
And no more EA games coming out. Why bother then
So you're going to base your decision to buy it off of one article?
Wow. I could sell you the world.
No you couldn't. Steve Jobs owns the patent for the world.
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Post #28 10/26/10 3:36:47PM
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We're in Lodi, bitch!
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Posted by BigBadAl
No you couldn't. Steve Jobs owns the patent for the world.
Well played.
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Post #29 10/26/10 3:52:24PM
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TimW001
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Posted by Bowen50
Posted by gartface
That's a shame.
especially when EA put out a better product than the UFC and THQ in my opinion.
Completely agree. It is such a great game.
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Post #30 10/26/10 4:25:14PM
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