UFC Judges after Sherk vs Dunham |
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duniek
MMA Regular
Career record: 886-601
Season: 16-8 (#1322)
Location: Toronto
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I am so upset after this fight I don't have enough bad words to describe what I think about those people end the quality of their work !!!
Are You with me on this?
Last edited 9/25/10 11:17PM by duniek
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Post #1 9/25/10 11:16:44PM
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jae_1833
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 918-569
Season: 20-4 (#327)
Location: Cali
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It's about par for the course really....I personally judge on a hybrid of American and Japanease criteria....by round, but with "closest to ending the fight" , also control and effective striking...using my system Dunham would have stolen the 2nd round....but using a strict American system, he did not. Sherk controlled over half of the round with his wrestling, Sherk also definately won round one IMO...3rd was Dunham obviously.
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Post #2 9/25/10 11:59:45PM
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Chael_Sonnen
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 521-343
Season: 17-7 (#819)
Location: Say My Name
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Dunham won that fight.
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Post #3 9/26/10 1:00:43AM
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MODulation
Career record: 953-574
Season: 19-5 (#434)
Location: Portlandia
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Round 2 was close enough that I can't complain too much, but there is no reason under the Unified rules or any other that Dunham shouldn't have won round 2.
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Post #4 9/26/10 1:03:13AM
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Chael_Sonnen
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 521-343
Season: 17-7 (#819)
Location: Say My Name
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Posted by duniek
I am so upset after this fight I don't have enough bad words to describe what I think about those people end the quality of their work !!!
Are You with me on this?
TOTALLY AGREE!!! Baaad decision!!!!!!!
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Post #5 9/26/10 1:04:48AM
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prozacnation1978
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 993-519
Season: 20-4 (#43)
Location: san diego
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The takedowns and cut did it
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Post #6 9/26/10 1:40:46AM
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Aether
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 929-503
Season: 18-6 (#402)
Location: Edmonton
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I thought Dunham won the second and third pretty decisively. The second was closer, but I still think Dunham was controlling the majority of the round, and doing far more damage during his time in control than Bader was in his.
This is why I don't purchase UFC events.
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Post #7 9/26/10 1:55:57AM
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tmas
In Full Mount
Career record: 742-643
Season: 16-8 (#1079)
Location: Indiana
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Posted by Aether
I thought Dunham won the second and third pretty decisively. The second was closer, but I still think Dunham was controlling the majority of the round, and doing far more damage during his time in control than Bader was in his.
This is why I don't purchase UFC events.
its not the UFC's fault its the judges/commission.....
really bad dec
Dunham won 2nd round fairly close but i thought he won
3rd round he won easy.
i had it 29-28 Dunham easy dec imo...
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Post #8 9/26/10 2:00:02AM
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Aether
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 929-503
Season: 18-6 (#402)
Location: Edmonton
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Posted by tmas
Posted by Aether
I thought Dunham won the second and third pretty decisively. The second was closer, but I still think Dunham was controlling the majority of the round, and doing far more damage during his time in control than Bader was in his.
This is why I don't purchase UFC events.
its not the UFC's fault its the judges/commission.....
really bad dec
Dunham won 2nd round fairly close but i thought he won
3rd round he won easy.
i had it 29-28 Dunham easy dec imo...
Yeah, I understand that, but the UFC also has the power to lead the way for all of the other organizations by doing something other than shrugging and saying "don't leave it in the hands of the judges."
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Post #9 9/26/10 2:03:39AM
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Jackelope
Go ahead, MOD my day
Career record: 586-330
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Getting choked out or arm barred
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Dunham got jobbed and that's really all there is to it. Just another chapter in the book of fails written by MMA judges
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Post #10 9/26/10 4:03:34AM
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1daveufc
Standup Guy
Career record: 498-359
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: newcastle.england
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I think sherk won the fight he won the first and it was the take downs and control that won him the second.Dunham won the third but lost a really close fight but once again the fighters shud not leave it in the hands of the judges.
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Post #11 9/26/10 4:29:32AM
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BustedKnuckle
MMA Sensei
Career record: 559-325
Season: 3-2 (#2140)
Location: The Flip Side
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The cut and all the blood sways the judges a lot IMO. If not for the cut I think Dunham gets the nod.
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Post #12 9/26/10 9:18:36AM
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kaduey
In Full Mount
Career record: 819-465
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Canada
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Posted by Aether
I thought Dunham won the second and third pretty decisively. The second was closer, but I still think Dunham was controlling the majority of the round, and doing far more damage during his time in control than Bader was in his.
This is why I don't purchase UFC events.
The last part of your comment is pure ignorance. Everytime someone has an issue with negative outcomes in North American mma (eg. steroids, referees, judging), the UFC and/or Dana is to blame. This is out of the UFC's hands so find another reason to not pay for the best mma promotion out there.
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Post #13 9/26/10 10:19:46AM
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Aether
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 929-503
Season: 18-6 (#402)
Location: Edmonton
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Posted by kaduey
Posted by Aether
I thought Dunham won the second and third pretty decisively. The second was closer, but I still think Dunham was controlling the majority of the round, and doing far more damage during his time in control than Bader was in his.
This is why I don't purchase UFC events.
The last part of your comment is pure ignorance. Everytime someone has an issue with negative outcomes in North American mma (eg. steroids, referees, judging), the UFC and/or Dana is to blame. This is out of the UFC's hands so find another reason to not pay for the best mma promotion out there.
I already responded to this.
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Post #14 9/26/10 11:22:23AM
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Cdellorso
In Full Mount
Career record: 612-419
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Grand Blanc MI
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I was so numb to the questionable judging that I was Totally " MEH" to
1. Guillard over Stephens- Effective striking- Stephens- Landed better haerder more effective strikes-
Ring control? well Stephens couldnt Control Melvin baking away 97% of the time-
he did explode forward some but those punches.. IF they landed were very soft by no reaction or physichal damage - Agression - stephens clearly
2. Bader NOG- I thought the outcome was fine but one judge had bader winning all 3 rounds?
3 Sherk Dunham - well losts of post already - it was a close foght but really dunham won the 1st part of rd 1 then the cut and take/down control clearly Sherk- i gave a close 2 to dunham and 3 was ALL dunham- Usually the rd 3 winner in a close fight wins the fight.
I dont know what can be done but I wish scoring was a bit more clear
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Post #15 9/26/10 11:25:03AM
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