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The name of former UFC interim heavyweight champion Shane Carwin appeared on a list of 22 professional athletes federal prosecutors allege obtained steroids from a Mobile, Ala.-based pharmacy between 2004-06, according to an internet report published on Friday by the Mobile Press-Register newspaper.

Carwin was among seven athletes – including pro wrestlers Kurt Angle and “Hardcore” Bob Holly as well as four professional bodybuilders – named by Assistant U.S. Attorney Donna Dobbins at the sentencing of Alabama pharmacist J. Michael Bennett. Bennett, one of five men recently found guilty of "participating in a nationwide conspiracy to illegally sell anabolic steroids," was sentenced to four years in prison, according to the report.

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Post #1   8/14/10 1:41:29PM   

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Post #2   8/14/10 1:48:33PM   

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Innocent until proven guilty, but this has tainted my opinion of Carwin.

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Posted by icantthinkofanything

Innocent until proven guilty, but this has tainted my opinion of Carwin.




if its true it was before he was in the UFC and has never failed a test sooo...... dont let it change your opinion he is clean now if he wasnt back then

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During that time he had his first five fights or so, that's not cool if he was in fact roiding. Then again I am pretty sure that Brock has used roids at some time in his past too....I won't think that it had an effect on the fight's outcome. So long as he is clean now then he can just pay for his crimes (if commited) and should be able to move on. It shouldn't effect his UFC career unless they prove that he used steriods to get one up on the UFC competition.

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Seriously... Who gives a damn. This is "news worthy" only in the fact that sports media needs a trumpeting point to rally around for headlines and steroids is there universal jumping off point. The fact is you can say "Athlete X is named as a person of interest for supposedly receiving "drug X" from "Dr. X" between the year of "X and X" for better than 90% of the athletes in professional US sport.

If that statistic is frightening or scary to you, than you've been looking through some awfully rose-colored glasses for the better part of two decades now. This doesn't taint my image of Carwin or this sport one bit. My only hope is that he was roiding safely under the watchful eye of a professional and not carelessly stacking in a manner that could cause irreparable damage to his long-term health.

Outside of that we should not give a damn at all about this.

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Posted by bojangalz

Seriously... Who gives a damn. This is "news worthy" only in the fact that sports media needs a trumpeting point to rally around for headlines and steroids is there universal jumping off point. The fact is you can say "Athlete X is named as a person of interest for supposedly receiving "drug X" from "Dr. X" between the year of "X and X" for better than 90% of the athletes in professional US sport.

If that statistic is frightening or scary to you, than you've been looking through some awfully rose-colored glasses for the better part of two decades now. This doesn't taint my image of Carwin or this sport one bit. My only hope is that he was roiding safely under the watchful eye of a professional and not carelessly stacking in a manner that could cause irreparable damage to his long-term health.

Outside of that we should not give a damn at all about this.



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Steroids don't help you take a punch or defend against submissions, they are the most overblown issue I've ever seen in MMA.

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Well there's really no way for any of us to say whether 90% of the athletes do it or if 5% do. Fact of the matter is we can never know for sure because none of us know 90-100% of the athletes on a personal level.

I will say this: I train at a gym with a lot of pretty successful professional MMA fighters (maybe no A-class world champs or anything, but good guys none the less) and to my knowledge none of them use any banned substances. They are big on nutrition (supplements, protein, ect.) but nothing that isn't allowed.

I don't buy the argument though that steroids are no big deal. People argue they make the sport more exciting but I think they make it unfair to people who don't want to risk damaging their bodies for the rest of their lives. I would hate to find out that the "new bread" of fighters are all just juicers.

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Posted by tepid55

Steroids don't help you take a punch or defend against submissions, they are the most overblown issue I've ever seen in MMA.



couldn't disagree more. Sounds like you might be using some banned substances jk

They might not change you're anatomy but if the make you faster (avoiding punches) stronger (powering out of submissions) and increase your offensive capabilities then they certainly affect the outcome of the fight.

I doubt many people would argue that Brock Lesnar has more fighting skill than Frank Mir, but he beat him handily. I'm not accusing either guy nor am I saying the don't juice. My point is that increased strength and athleticism change the way fights go down (something I thought should be obvious).

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Posted by bjj1605

They might not change you're anatomy but if the make you faster (avoiding punches) stronger (powering out of submissions) and increase your offensive capabilities



All good things and the reason I think it is stupid they are illegal

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Going to say the same thing I say on every one of these steroid related threads-

The vast majority of A level fighters out there or athletes in any sport besides maybe golf are using one substance or another whether they know it or not. They are everywhere and they are used everywhere. Somebody said rose colored glasses earlier. Yep, people are still looking through them.

That being said, I'd be surprised to learn Carwin is using them. He seems like a pretty straight shooter in nearly all aspects of his life. It would come as a slight surprise, but it wouldn't knock my socks off.

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Posted by icantthinkofanything

Innocent until proven guilty, but this has tainted my opinion of Carwin.




Then your opinion of all pro athletes should be tainted. Buddy, do you honesty think there is one Combatant who hasnt used something to enhance their performance? I personally dont care because what one does with their body in sports is there business.

When ppl talk about juicing as this rare thing in pro athletics it makes me laugh and shake my head. Garunteed he probably has used, as have most athletes.

They didnt drug test in Pride so i can GARUNTEE that almost every athlete over there was using, even around fight time! So your opinion of the Chute Boxe boys and Page, CC, and everyone else should be tainted.

Come on man, if theres something to enhance performance, for an athlete where its their damn job! then yes they wil absolutely use it! To say that most athletes today dont? is absolutely foolish and ppl should be smarter than that and know that its super common.

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No way......He doesn't look like he's on steroids.........................

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i allege they all do em in all sports...

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