Dream Fight: BJ Penn vs Gilbert Melendez |
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FireballKid
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I started having problems with an Aldo and Penn matchup, BJ would be too heavy and would smother him. However, Melendez is a big dude for a lightweight. His striking capability can matchup against that of Penn. The only thing Melendez needs to worry about is Penn's Jiu-Jitsu. With the Aoki fight, Melendez was obviously bigger in size. BJ Penn though is bigger than Aoki.
I can't come up with a result for this match.
Does anyone have their predictions?
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Post #1 7/7/10 9:20:43PM
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seanfu
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Melendes unable to do anything but be jabbed repeatedly for embarrasing landslide.
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Post #2 7/7/10 9:51:08PM
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Remember Paul Herrera
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Melendez not being able to score a takedown and being forced to fight a frankie edgar esque strategy to no avail. His hands just arent good enough.
Would look alot like Penn v. Sherk & Melendez v. Thomson 1
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Post #3 7/7/10 10:32:19PM
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ChokeUout
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C'mon man...BJ would kill melendez. BJ's Stand-up is better, I doubt Gilbert can take BJ down, and even if he would, BJ probably has a bigger advantage on the ground than on the feet. Also, I think BJ could take Gilbert down easier than Gilbert could to BJ.
You can call it a dream match-up, I call it a lopsided beatdown. Maybe moreso than BJ vs Diego or Florian.
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Post #4 7/8/10 1:26:37AM
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Prodigy via submission !!
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Post #5 7/8/10 1:51:54AM
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Taylor8766
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Bj would destroy Melendez, he would pick him apart standing and then would go to the ground pound him for a bit and sink in a submission.
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Post #6 7/8/10 11:18:19AM
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jae_1833
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Posted by KaibaThedon
Prodigy via submission !!
I seriously doubt that! Aoki's got better jits then Penn by far and he couldn't sub Melendez, besides Penn hasn't used his jits in a fight for a while and just depends on his boxing nowadays. I think Penn would win but I doubt he would be willing to go to the ground against Melendez because his wrestling is solid and that's Penn's "Achilles Heel".
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Post #7 7/8/10 7:33:29PM
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seanfu
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Posted by jae_1833
Posted by KaibaThedon
Prodigy via submission !!
I seriously doubt that! Aoki's got better jits then Penn by far and he couldn't sub Melendez, besides Penn hasn't used his jits in a fight for a while and just depends on his boxing nowadays. I think Penn would win but I doubt he would be willing to go to the ground against Melendez because his wrestling is solid and that's Penn's "Achilles Heel".
When was Aoki on the ground in that fight again?
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Post #8 7/9/10 12:02:51PM
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warglory
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Posted by jae_1833
Posted by KaibaThedon
Prodigy via submission !!
I seriously doubt that! Aoki's got better jits then Penn by far and he couldn't sub Melendez, besides Penn hasn't used his jits in a fight for a while and just depends on his boxing nowadays. I think Penn would win but I doubt he would be willing to go to the ground against Melendez because his wrestling is solid and that's Penn's "Achilles Heel".
How can you say Aoki has better jits than Penn? Aoki has never, ever, fought a guy with the level of jits that Penn has.
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Post #9 7/10/10 10:02:52AM
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BustedKnuckle
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I see it as a beat down for Gil all the way. He doesn't have the skills to take BJ down, and his stand-up would be rudamentary compared to "The Prodigy". Seriously, I love that SF has a good following(me included) but, thier champs are second best to the UFC. Gilbert would not beat Edgar. Diaz would be totaly overwhelmed by GSP, flat out!! Shields is leaving for the UFC(allegedly!!). King Mo wouldn't last a minute against Rua's strikes. And Werdum would get smothered by Brock.
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Post #10 7/10/10 9:10:57PM
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rcg916
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I'll play devil's advocate... Doesn't Melendez get credit for far superior conditioning? I think it would make a difference in a 5 round fight. I could see BJ starting hot, and fading down the stretch. Either way, Id love to see it.
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Post #11 7/19/10 11:00:47PM
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mshalosky
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Posted by jae_1833
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Posted by KaibaThedon
Prodigy via submission !!
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I seriously doubt that! Aoki's got better jits then Penn by far and he couldn't sub Melendez, besides Penn hasn't used his jits in a fight for a while and just depends on his boxing nowadays. I think Penn would win but I doubt he would be willing to go to the ground against Melendez because his wrestling is solid and that's Penn's "Achilles Heel".
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When was Aoki on the ground in that fight again?
Well, if butt scooting counts then like 80 percent of the fight lol. Penn would get the SUB because, he would dominate him standing and break him. At somepoint he will knock Melendez down and SUB him.
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Post #12 7/21/10 1:33:13AM
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MODulation
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Posted by rcg916
I'll play devil's advocate... Doesn't Melendez get credit for far superior conditioning? I think it would make a difference in a 5 round fight. I could see BJ starting hot, and fading down the stretch. Either way, Id love to see it.
That would be the one chance. It would really depend on BJ more than anything that Gil could pull out. Gil wouldn't get BJ down and Gil is not the striker that Edgar (or Florian for that matter) is. Melendez does have good sub defense and does train with some high level grapplers, but I don't think the fight stays down long enough for it to make a difference.
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Post #13 7/21/10 2:07:51AM
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c-dub
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I think bj would come out wit the win in this fight. dont get me wrong melendez is a hell of a top ranked fighter but the strikeforce 155 div is not stacked like the UFC. i would like 2 c him fight ken-flo, sherk, gray maynard, just 2 c how he does before he takes a fight of that caliber. 
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Post #14 7/21/10 1:24:53PM
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noahgenda
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gilberts striking capabilities almost certainly do not match up with penn's
edit: also, how is wrestling the "achilles heel" of the hardest guy to take down in mma?
Last edited 7/22/10 10:31AM by noahgenda
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Post #15 7/22/10 10:28:40AM
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