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NSAC head Keith Kizer today revealed some of the fighter payouts-to-be for tomorrow's UFC 116 event. Brock Lesnar will get $400,000 no matter what, while Shane Carwin will get $40,000 guaranteed, $80,000 of he wins. Chris Leben will make $43,000 with double that if he wins, while Yoshihiro Akiyama gets $45,000 and another $25,000 to win.

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Post #1   7/2/10 4:34:08PM   

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Wow! 400k base? Chuck mad 500k for his loss against Franklin. It's gonna be nasty to what guys like GSP, Brock, and Silva make after renegotiations...that is if Silva decides to renegotiate.

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Posted by jlock003

Wow! 400k base? Chuck mad 500k for his loss against Franklin. It's gonna be nasty to what guys like GSP, Brock, and Silva make after renegotiations...that is if Silva decides to renegotiate.



The UFC will sometimes work with champs to renegotiate their pay, but the championship clause keeps them at a static payrate. These numbers don't mean alot anyway, because all of those guys listed get PPV cuts that make their base rate look like pocket change. Even Carwin will be making a lot more than what's listed this time around.

Edit: Oh, and unless Silva loses, it's basically auto-renegotiation...again from the championship clause.

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Good point, although Carwin has said on his blog that he ins't getting a cut of the ppv numbers this time around, but still a good point considering sponsership deals and how much money Brock is going to make.

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Carwin only getting paid $40,000

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Posted by grappler0000


Posted by jlock003

Wow! 400k base? Chuck mad 500k for his loss against Franklin. It's gonna be nasty to what guys like GSP, Brock, and Silva make after renegotiations...that is if Silva decides to renegotiate.



The UFC will sometimes work with champs to renegotiate their pay, but the championship clause keeps them at a static payrate. These numbers don't mean alot anyway, because all of those guys listed get PPV cuts that make their base rate look like pocket change. Even Carwin will be making a lot more than what's listed this time around.

Edit: Oh, and unless Silva loses, it's basically auto-renegotiation...again from the championship clause.



in most cases that is true. it was reported on mma live that carwin said he was not getting a ppv share and that he wasn't happy about it.
dismal pay for an exciting hw going for a title if true imo.

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and i heard people complain about Werdum's $100,000 pay....

this is a huge problem in mma. look at carwins record. he should be making bank. lesnar shouldnt be making anywhere near that yet.

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Lesnar is also the reason most of the casual fans are buying this PPV. Not Carwin. The base for Lesnar makes complete sense when you look at how many people are buying this because of his name. He's selling the majority of this PPV, he should make significantly more money.

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Posted by hate4thestate

and i heard people complain about Werdum's $100,000 pay....

this is a huge problem in mma. look at carwins record. he should be making bank. lesnar shouldnt be making anywhere near that yet.



What are you talking about. Brock is the heavyweight champ. Not to mention he is hands down the biggest draw in the UFC.

I agree carwin should be making more.

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Is Carwin make less than he probably should for a title bout this huge, absolutely. But Lesnar's $400,000k isn't absurd.

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i agree that lesnar should get the lions share. he brings in a different audience as well as a huge mma fan/hatebase. no problem there. however, the potential difference seems absurd in this case.

this is the possibility; if lesnar is on a similar ppv share to the one couture and liddell were on a few years back he could pick up several million dollars from this event. if the story of carwin getting no ppv share are true he gets 40,000 minimum. lesnar could conceivably make 100 times what carwin makes

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A #1 contendar clause needs to be written into their contracts too....the contendar should be making at least half of what the champ makes. (This is still messed up I know) They should also make a share of the PPV as they are half the reason the fight is watched.

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I disagree, Jae. More often than not people watch the title fight for the champion. If nothing else to see him lose. I don't know anybody that bought GSP-Hardy because of Hardy. I sure as hell don't know anyone that bought Silva-Maia/Edgar-Penn for Edgar and Maia.

This is a rare case where Carwin is, to the casual fan, the only seemingly person that can destroy Lesnar, because of their size/skill similarities. This is a weird Champ vs. Challenger match-up. I say challenger because, let's be real, it doesn't matter who wins this fight, they still only get one belt. The only time an interim champion matters is when they make him official due to an absence.

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I bought gsp/hardy for hardy, even though I had a good feeling he was gonna lose, I just love to see the guy fight, I dont care much about gsp.

Although I know hat isn't the point you were making, Carwin this year will make more money then alot of doctors or lawyers do. He already fought this year correct? got a win bonus? sponsorships? and what do they do in there off time, just train hard and stay in great shape. Some of these fighters have it great, if they weren't doing this, they would probably be making less the 40k/year. Even with the expenses that are paid out (gym's, supplements, medicals, travels cost during training). Its not a bad gig for them already.

You pay your fighters that bring you the most money. You have to remember, 60% of the fans don't buy every PPV, alot of them probably haven't seen Shane fight but once or twice. Its Lesners name the sold out the crowd.

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Posted by BlueSkiesBurn

I disagree, Jae. More often than not people watch the title fight for the champion. If nothing else to see him lose. I don't know anybody that bought GSP-Hardy because of Hardy. I sure as hell don't know anyone that bought Silva-Maia/Edgar-Penn for Edgar and Maia.

This is a rare case where Carwin is, to the casual fan, the only seemingly person that can destroy Lesnar, because of their size/skill similarities. This is a weird Champ vs. Challenger match-up. I say challenger because, let's be real, it doesn't matter who wins this fight, they still only get one belt. The only time an interim champion matters is when they make him official due to an absence.


I see your point which is why I thought that the challenger making half what the champion did was appropriate (for salary and ppv buys). Regardless of who they are watching for it takes two to tango (this clause would only be for the one fight), but we all know people are watching the champs. I just think there are a lot of big issues like this that should be rectified. Testing, medical, pay, refing, judging, rules, ect....

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