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Boxing's David Haye Calls James Toney "Delusional" for Taking UFC Fight With Randy Couture

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"Six months of training isn’t going to be enough," Haye said. "As a UFC fan, I know two or three years wouldn’t be enough. How many times has Toney sprawled in his life? 500? How many leg kicks has he taken in his life? 300? How many Kimura attempts has he defended? 140? Even if he’s done double that amount, he wouldn’t have nearly the experience needed to win a UFC fight."

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No way a boxer with a good grasp of MMA, and he didn't have one bad thing to say about the sport! I'm impressed.

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Well Haye has actually trained a little in MMA and has admitted in the past he respects the fighters and the sport.

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Haye should quit ducking the Klitschkos.

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Posted by Giant_Ochai

Haye should quit ducking the Klitschkos.



Is that not fighter bashing? Or does it not count when there boxers?

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Posted by Giant_Ochai

Haye should quit ducking the Klitschkos.



You know it was Klitschko who refused to resign after the first fight fell through and they are sorting out a new fight right now.

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nice to hear a boxer actually correct about mma

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This guy is spot on, I liked the way Joe Rogan said it better, but the point is still there. There's no way James Toney can prepare in even a few years to try and prevent Randy from doing what he's done for most of his life.

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How delusional will Toney be if he puts Randy's lights out? Obviously Toney can't grapple and roll with Couture...he will be done quick if he does. The problem for Randy is that he has to engage Toney to get him down...that is where Toney's opportunity lies. All it takes is one punch. Toney is a high level, super experienced pro boxer...he knows how to hit. His power is far above 99% of the MMA fighters out there. He will hit Couture like Couture has never been hit. The outcome hinges on weather Randy gets hit or not.

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How does being a pro boxer make him have more punching power than 99% of MMA fighters out there? Punching power is something people are born with, nt taught. Technique can improve it some, but boxing coaches havent taught him some SECRET POWER TECHNIQUES. Im sure Toney's power is better than his KO record suggests, but there are tons of boxers with better punching power than him. I still wouldnt consider him in the top half of power punchers in his own sport. If he hit that hard he would use it more. Its not like he has a ton of power, but decides to use skill.

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Posted by SmileR


Posted by Giant_Ochai

Haye should quit ducking the Klitschkos.



You know it was Klitschko who refused to resign after the first fight fell through and they are sorting out a new fight right now.



Of course he knew that. He must have inside knowledge to make such a claim

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Bad night for toney

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Posted by lll-lll

How does being a pro boxer make him have more punching power than 99% of MMA fighters out there? Punching power is something people are born with, nt taught. Technique can improve it some, but boxing coaches havent taught him some SECRET POWER TECHNIQUES. Im sure Toney's power is better than his KO record suggests, but there are tons of boxers with better punching power than him. I still wouldnt consider him in the top half of power punchers in his own sport. If he hit that hard he would use it more. Its not like he has a ton of power, but decides to use skill.

I've always thought it was technique that gives power more than strength. Look at Brock he's a beast but I think Vitor has better technique and hits with more power even though Brock could most likely bench press more.

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I have heard that Haye wants to try his hand at MMA after he achieves what he wants in boxing. As someone mentioned before he has trained MMA for the past few years (not sure about the intensity of it). I would like to see David Haye at LHW in the near future, he has fought at cruiserweight (200lbs.) in the ring but said he really struggled to make weight.

Maybe/hopefully he could make 205

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Posted by machodog76


Posted by lll-lll

How does being a pro boxer make him have more punching power than 99% of MMA fighters out there? Punching power is something people are born with, nt taught. Technique can improve it some, but boxing coaches havent taught him some SECRET POWER TECHNIQUES. Im sure Toney's power is better than his KO record suggests, but there are tons of boxers with better punching power than him. I still wouldnt consider him in the top half of power punchers in his own sport. If he hit that hard he would use it more. Its not like he has a ton of power, but decides to use skill.

I've always thought it was technique that gives power more than strength. Look at Brock he's a beast but I think Vitor has better technique and hits with more power even though Brock could most likely bench press more.



If that were the case the most technical boxers would be the hardest hitters, and that is usually the opposite case.

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