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Who do you think is the fighter to have Shogun's Number?

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Earlier today i was pondering Rampage v. Shogun 2 and i came to the conclusion that Shogun just has Rampages number. He can pressure(kicks) from a greater range without repercussion in return. And Rampage will probably never be able to deal with that matchup. Rampage is not fast enough.

Lyoto is a stylistic nightmare for alot of fighters, but Shogun seemed to even have the tools to disassemble him too. He was able to land the more powerful shots In a fight where both fighters got hit just as much. And personally i dont think Lyoto can pull it off in the rematch. Lyoto's just not powerful enough.

Shogun was able to deal with both extremes of the striking spectrum, and did so with with ease.



Now with all this said, Who do you think matches up favorably against Shogun at 205?

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Post #1   4/28/10 2:47:01PM   

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Posted by cowcatcher

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sorry had to.



Oh,

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Coleman possibly? HAHA

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first of, LOL at the forrest comment. loved it.


Secondly, I'd say someone like Jon Jones (obviously not yet, but sometime soon).

He has the ground pedigree to get shogun to the ground, and from there I believe he is one of the best at 205 for GNP. I belive his ground game is only going to get better considering his camp. I feel like he has probably the best attitude and approach to the game (this based on interviews and what not). He has great work ethic.


and then you go to the feet. Shogun is amazing on his feet. I think Jon Jones might be better. Honestly, I know I'm nuthugging here, but I feel Jon Jones has the tools to be the best LHW ever.

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Damn I jumped in this thread to jokingly say "Jon Jones" before anybody had a chance to but it looks like I've been beaten to it. Honestly right now you could ask-

"Who do you think is the fighter to have "INSERT FIGHTER NAME HERE"'s number?"

and guaranteed the response you would get is-

"Insert Jon Jones and some form of justification here"

Honestly I can't say the huggers are wrong at this point, though. The guy has certainly shown some pretty impressive skills. Then again I remember about 3 years ago you could have asked the same question and the answer would have been

"Insert Brandon Vera and some form of justification here"

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i hear you jackelope, but ive got to admit to buying into the jones hype train too. at this point i dont know who i would have as a big favorite against him. when vera was all the rage i never fully bought into the guy as a future belt holder, with jones i find it hard to come up with a reason why he wont be champ someday.

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I've gotta defend my boy Machida and call out Pookie at the same time. First I will post a prop that Pookie gave me on August 6, 2008. "Machida's nuts, they have more than enough room for the both of us."

Machida definitely has the power to defeat Shogun, if anything Shogun didn't have the power to knock out Machida since as you say "he landed the more powerful shots." Lyoto will game plan accordingly and also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Shogun get another mark in the loss column when he fought Machida?

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Some dude that's fighting at 185 at the moment.

That may change should Shogun defeat Machida again (which I'm picking against).

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Machida. Shogun outscored Machida and still couldnt beat him! haha This next fight I think Machida will win decisively now that his hand is healed. Machida when into the first Shogun fight with an injured hand..

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Posted by chickmagnet

Machida. Shogun outscored Machida and still couldnt beat him! haha This next fight I think Machida will win decisively now that his hand is healed. Machida when into the first Shogun fight with an injured hand..



Excuses = Crybabies

We already know Machida is one. Dont be one too. :(

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Any top wrestler in the division that decides to lay on him and not strike him or press action.

Matt Hamill could probably beat him by laying on him. Bottom subs are just too damn hard to get these days.

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I've always said Bon Jones have very skinny legs, Shogun could easily leg kick him into misery.
I cant think of anyone to have "his number" you can make the case for some to beat him but it wont be like a sure shot or anytime (i.e. number).


Injured hand?
First, lame excuse. Second, what difference does that make? He was backpedaling like always but Shogun was smart enough to not fall on the trap. Unless he wasn't fighting forward because of the "injury" yeah right.

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I've always said Bon Jones have very skinny legs,


Is Bon Jones a cousin of Bon Scott?

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Posted by juggernautakira


Posted by chickmagnet

Machida. Shogun outscored Machida and still couldnt beat him! haha This next fight I think Machida will win decisively now that his hand is healed. Machida when into the first Shogun fight with an injured hand..



Excuses = Crybabies

We already know Machida is one. Dont be one too. :(



complaints about decisions = CryBabies, all the ppl who think Shogun is the uncrowned champ


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