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Roy Nelson Says Kongo Next, Likely At UFC 116

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Posted by MaxOne
i'm curious how you've come to this conclusion about roy and his hatred of being punched in the face.



Most people look angry or hurt or even stonefaced after getting hit. Nelson looked petulant after Arlovski started pouring it on towards the end of that fight.

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I can't see Kongo winning this match, he tends to get beat up pretty easily by decent grapplers. He does have a chance as long as the fight stays standing, but Roy is the new gatekeeper and we could be nearing the Kongo era in the UFC.



There's a Kongo era? Did I miss something

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I like the match up. I think if Roy can watch out for Kongo's jab then he can get the fight to the ground and from there submit him. My guess would be a Kimura.

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I can see kongo winning with range and knees. But i'll pick Nelson because i dont allow myself to pick kongo anymore.

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i'm curious how you've come to this conclusion about roy and his hatred of being punched in the face.



Most people look angry or hurt or even stonefaced after getting hit. Nelson looked petulant after Arlovski started pouring it on towards the end of that fight.



Anyone who gets hit flush by Arlovski is going to look petulant. Arlovski has big power and great hands. Better hands than Kongos...

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Too bad he doesn't have a chin to match those hands.

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Posted by MaxOne
i'm curious how you've come to this conclusion about roy and his hatred of being punched in the face.



Most people look angry or hurt or even stonefaced after getting hit. Nelson looked petulant after Arlovski started pouring it on towards the end of that fight.



Anyone who gets hit flush by Arlovski is going to look petulant. Arlovski has big power and great hands. Better hands than Kongos...


To me that fight never happened.

I think of this fight a lot like the Kongo and Herring fight, but with a much better grappler. I think that Roy has a lot better takedown defense than Heath, but if he gets put on his back I think he'll be able to sweep Kongo with ease and dominate him with the belly, like he was doing against Arlovski...I mean...

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Arlovski is infinitely better on the ground than Kongo. I still want to know about this Kongo era that someone was referring to earlier.

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I had ROy winning the fight against Arlovski until the dumb ref had them stand up while Roy had dominant position on the ground. I don't know how a person looks petulant, penitent, or perturbed while getting punched in the face. All I know is, I've seen Roy in some wars (Ben Rothwell comes to mind) and I didn't see him backing down at all. He has improved since that time and has shown his power by KO'ing the guys that he's faced so far. So.....i think the Kongo fight will be a good measuring stick because Kongo is a bit of a gatekeeper. If you can beat Kongo you can fight the top guys. If you can't beat Kongo--you can't fight the top guys. He's good enough to better than the chumps, but not good enough to be elite...unless he gets a meaningful ground game and a defense that negates the KO.

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kongo MIGHT take roy down, but good luck keeping him down.

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The big redneck versus the muscle bound french guy. The mullet will over shower over Kongo in victory

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Posted by chickmagnet


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i'm curious how you've come to this conclusion about roy and his hatred of being punched in the face.



Most people look angry or hurt or even stonefaced after getting hit. Nelson looked petulant after Arlovski started pouring it on towards the end of that fight.



Anyone who gets hit flush by Arlovski is going to look petulant. Arlovski has big power and great hands. Better hands than Kongos...



to me roy looked like he was mad at himself....(although I thought it looked like it was arlovski's knee that rocked him not the hands.)

that fight is a terrible example though because Roy clearly won the first round. Who knows what would have happened if the ref didn't step in. It may have went the same way but that was seriously a terrible stand up. Side control is dominant. It's not like he was stuck in the guard.

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i think roy's underestimated by a lot of people because of physique, but hes got power and good wrestling. i could see him putting Congo in the crucifix and pounding him out like he did to kimbo. congo's just not that impressive anywhere, im not even impressed with his striking even though a lot of people say hes a good striker.

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Roy can get as far as a gatekeeper within the HW division. Once you reach the top tier: Carwin, Lesnar, Velasquez, and JDS, you're dealing with a whole different animal. Roy won't be able to use his size on those gentlemen and will most definitely be at a disadvantage in the striking game. If nothing else because of the sheer size of those opponents. He could, realistically, beat several of them but I can't see him running the gauntlet of those four without a couple loses if he even makes it past the first.

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I got Nelson winning

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