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Hey just wondering what you guys think is the best combo for fighting in MMA. Now I know alot of people say that wrestling is the best foundation to fighting, and in some ways I agree but IMO I would go with a different style for grappling, I really like Judo and am really hoping to be training in it in the summer. I love the ideas of just tossing people around like rag dolls. As per stand-up I think that Kickboxing and Muay Thai are the best for stand-up, kicks, knees, elbows, clinch great hands can't ask for much more. As for the ground BJJ hands down, there are other form of jiu-jitsu but BJJ is IMO the best around.

Kickboxing/Muay Thai
Judo
BJJ

What are your thoughts?

Post #1   3/9/10 5:43:24PM   

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Muay Thai/BJJ all day - both styles, if executed properly, have tremendous offensive AND defensive potential with the fewest holes of any style combination IMO...

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Posted by fightscoops

Muay Thai/BJJ all day - both styles, if executed properly, have tremendous offensive AND defensive potential with the fewest holes of any style combination IMO...




I second that !!!!

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Muay Tai///BJJ///Wrestling. That way you have 3 ways to win. If your fighting a BJJ ace then use your wrestling to not let them take you down and use your muay tai. If your fighting a KO artist use the wrestling to take it down and Submit them and if your fighting a wrestler then you can cancel each other out.

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Muay Thai and BJJ was the first thing that came to mind for me too, but wrestling could be thrown in there too there are some great MMA fighters who use wrestling and prove how effective it is in this sport.

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Wrestling/Muay Thai seems to be the best. Top notch BJJ guys usually don't finish eachother by sub anymore, so what matters is who's on top on the ground and who is the better in the standup.

You look at GSP vs Alves, Serra, BJ etc

And you have a list of wrstlers he beasted.

Bj wins by sprawl and brawl anymore, if he didn't have a world class sprawl and a world class jab he wouldn't be as dominant.

You see what kickboxing/ Muay thai gets you when you see a guy like Forrest getting layed on by a far inferior Ortiz or when Anderson Silva is jabbing and running from BJJ guys because he's even on the ground.

World class wrestling/muay thai ftw imo

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Wrestling for the throws, sweeps, sub defense, chokes, control and all the physical aspects that BJJ guys don't seem to gain from years of training that wrestler's do.
Muay Thai of course....it's got all boxing and kickboxing entities contained into one deadly style.

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Posted by seanfu

Wrestling/Muay Thai seems to be the best. Top notch BJJ guys usually don't finish eachother by sub anymore, so what matters is who's on top on the ground and who is the better in the standup.

You look at GSP vs Alves, Serra, BJ etc

And you have a list of wrstlers he beasted.

Bj wins by sprawl and brawl anymore, if he didn't have a world class sprawl and a world class jab he wouldn't be as dominant.

You see what kickboxing/ Muay thai gets you when you see a guy like Forrest getting layed on by a far inferior Ortiz or when Anderson Silva is jabbing and running from BJJ guys because he's even on the ground.

World class wrestling/muay thai ftw imo



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Posted by Taylor8766

Hey just wondering what you guys think is the best combo for fighting in MMA. Now I know alot of people say that wrestling is the best foundation to fighting, and in some ways I agree but IMO I would go with a different style for grappling, I really like Judo and am really hoping to be training in it in the summer. I love the ideas of just tossing people around like rag dolls. As per stand-up I think that Kickboxing and Muay Thai are the best for stand-up, kicks, knees, elbows, clinch great hands can't ask for much more. As for the ground BJJ hands down, there are other form of jiu-jitsu but BJJ is IMO the best around.

Kickboxing/Muay Thai
Judo
BJJ

What are your thoughts?



If i'm allowed I will go with submission grappling and Thai boxing. I know Sub Grappling is a combination of all the ground sports but it has grown legs with events like ADCC Grapplers quest and NOGA. I have rolled in many submission grappling tournments and can honestly say I have never put a Gi on or wrestled in High School.

IMO Judo is really hard to use in MMA and even BJJ for that matter. Your not allowed to use the Gi so 90% of your offense is gone.

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I think that some styles are better suited for certain people than others. Catch Wrestling isn't for everyone, unless you ask Josh Barnett, but there are growing numbers using it. Sambo could be considered as a good style, as it is a combination of early Judo and various wrestling styles from the Soviet Union. Nevertheless, few successful fighters are using it. BJJ has long been thought to be the most important grappling style, but it has holes that other styles can exploit in MMA.

Grappling styles in part are meant to be used wearing a gi, which is not allowed in most places. So Judo, BJJ and Sambo all use the gi. Wrestling in all its variations (Greco, Freestyle, Catch) don't. The habit of controlling humans without using the gi seems to give wrestling an advantage. The problem is that most wrestling styles don't have the submissions that other styles do. BJJ has the most complete submission arsenal in some respects, but the traditional aversion among practitioners to leg-locks can make people vulnerable. Aoki among other Japanese fighters use leg-locks against foreign fighters because of their superior technical knowledge of those submissions and that outside Japan, leg-locks are under-taught.

Striking poses another set of problems. Karate, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing and other striking arts all have had success. The spinning strikes more common in Tae Kwon Do can work quite effectively. Good boxing can stop a lot of opponents. Muay Thai contains an arsenal of options many other arts don't. Need I go on?

In my opinion, you need to know everything to a degree. You also need to know how to apply it. You also need to have in addition to that well-rounded game, at least one art that you are great at to be truly competitive in the upper echelons. If Demian Meia wasn't a phenomenal BJJ practitioner, he wouldn't be where he is today. Most however need at least two arts they are great at that cover the three areas that cover the range of combat. Standing apart, in the clinch and on the ground all have various arts with pluses and minuses.

The true best combination is the one that does cover all ranges and works for the competitor. There is no universal solution.

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Muay Thai, Judo, Greco-Roman.

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Posted by Pookie

Muay Thai, Judo, Greco-Roman.



Greco is definitely good for coming into MMA, the clinchwork is mad effective, as Couture shows in every fight

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Wrestling and Muai Thai. Especially Greco Roman wrestling. Lots of clinkching in Greco and would translate nicely with the Muai Thai. BJJ has top be in the mix as well. As the sport grow we will see more and more fighters will multiple "prfessionaly honed" skill sets!

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