Big Nog has mexican boxer syndrome? CAN BE CURED!!! |
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cmill21
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 369-196
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Regina SK
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The former stars are getting old. Plain and simple. I don't see them making another run for titles. If your best defense is having a good chin, you will lose and it will let you down(talking to you Nick), it's happend with everyone including the monster we know as Mark Hunt.
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Post #16 2/26/10 4:27:27PM
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marcoDGK
Standup Guy
Career record: 231-181
Season: 5-5 (#3674)
Location: Santa Ana, Ca
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Big Nog did not do so well in his stand up, IMO. He reminded me of Marcus Jones. He was just putting his arms straight out when Valasquez was throwing his combinations. He clipped Valasquez with a jab right before getting knocked out but before that I didn't see Nog land anything significant.
I don't think Big Nog is "done" but I do think he won't be making a run for the championship anymore. IMO, he has a couple more good fights in him.
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Post #17 2/26/10 4:30:01PM
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MODesty
Career record: 723-367
Season: 38-12 (#5)
Location: Oklahoma
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Posted by cmill21
The former stars are getting old. Plain and simple. I don't see them making another run for titles. If your best defense is having a good chin, you will lose and it will let you down(talking to you Nick), it's happend with everyone including the monster we know as Mark Hunt.
I think age is just starting to be a factor. The old stars just don't have the same speed/reflexes they had few years ago. That doesn't mean he is done and he is still tough fight for most HWs out there.
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Post #18 2/26/10 5:07:25PM
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BustedKnuckle
MMA Sensei
Career record: 424-232
Season: 32-18 (#496)
Location: The Flip Side
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Wars take a toll for sure. And NOG has been in a lot of them. He needs to shift from all around fighter to get it to the mat and sub' em guy! He is still very very dangerous fighter on the ground. And his striking is good as well. But I think he needs to use it to set up takedowns. he could still be a force in the HW division just with a tweak to the system. 
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Post #19 2/26/10 5:34:12PM
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marcoDGK
Standup Guy
Career record: 231-181
Season: 5-5 (#3674)
Location: Santa Ana, Ca
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Posted by telnights
Posted by cmill21
The former stars are getting old. Plain and simple. I don't see them making another run for titles. If your best defense is having a good chin, you will lose and it will let you down(talking to you Nick), it's happend with everyone including the monster we know as Mark Hunt.
I think age is just starting to be a factor. The old stars just don't have the same speed/reflexes they had few years ago. That doesn't mean he is done and he is still tough fight for most HWs out there.
I think that is why Randy is so good for his age now also. He has realized he doesn't have the same Speed/Reflexes. That's why he sticks with his clinch, pushing up against the cage and the dirty boxing. Big Nog can still be as much of a treat as Randy is (IMO) If he can realize that he needs to tweet his fighting style a bit. Stick to what gets him the W and stay out of wars with heavy handed fighters. We'll see though... hopefully he bounces back well.
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Post #20 2/26/10 6:37:55PM
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chickmagnet
MMA Sensei
Career record: 387-247
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted by cmill21
The former stars are getting old. Plain and simple. I don't see them making another run for titles. If your best defense is having a good chin, you will lose and it will let you down(talking to you Nick), it's happend with everyone including the monster we know as Mark Hunt.
Exactly. 
Guys like Liddell used to exchange because they could take a shot. Same with Nog, same with Hunt. The brain can only take so much punishment.
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Post #21 2/27/10 3:41:48PM
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Aether
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 650-352
Season: 39-11 (#78)
Location: Canada
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Laying on your back and getting punched in the head by Fedor for 40 minutes is likely to cause some damage to your brain.
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Post #22 2/27/10 11:40:44PM
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bjj1605
MMA Sensei
Career record: 626-379
Season: 39-11 (#165)
Location: Chicago
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I agree with what most people have said. Damage takes it's toll. Nog is a shot fighter. He'll never make a championship run again.
He should switch to a straight jiu jitsu style because his submissions are still better than nearly every other heavyweight.
This is what we're seeing with Chuck, and Wandy, and a dozen other fighters. Its sad to see and it sucks but fighters age and a new generation replaces them. It's a long and drawn out process because no one wants to admit they're done, but it happens eventually. Even Randy Couture is starting to show signs of aging.
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Post #23 3/1/10 5:10:23PM
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CwB
MMA Sensei
Career record: 221-151
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Sin Sh*tty
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Unless your "CURE" is a time machine I dont think Nog can be cured...
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Post #24 3/1/10 9:06:27PM
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