Strikeforce Welterweight Champion Nick Diaz is going to be hard to beat |
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RhythmAndStyle
MMA Sensei
Career record: 587-351
Season: 34-16 (#875)
Location: Oshkosh,Wisconsin
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I'm proud to be doing what I do. I wasn't hurt at all [in this fight]. My lip got cut a little, but I wasn't hurt, I was fine.... My gameplan was that I am a better all-around fighter than him, so I was going take what I was going to get. Try and set up my punches. Set up my body punches -- not let him breathe. Set up the knee to the body. Set up the knee to the leg. I'm going to control him on the fence.
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Post #1 1/31/10 4:48:00PM
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Twenty20Dollars
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 679-411
Season: 34-16 (#165)
Location: Mizzou
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I think soon enough we are going to see Lawler vs Diaz 2 if SF is smart they would. Do it after each guy has had maybe 1-2 fights from now.
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Post #2 1/31/10 6:19:39PM
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warglory
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 448-302
Season: 21-20 (#2163)
Location: Portland, ME
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My how soon we all forget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjS_-KnCkIg&feature=player_embedded
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Post #3 1/31/10 6:52:41PM
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Captain Doctor
Career record: 428-307
Season: 9-3 (#3135)
Location: San Diego
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Posted by warglory
My how soon we all forget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjS_-KnCkIg&feature=player_embedded
i haven't forgot. I still think noons has a great chance of winning a rematch although Nick's stand up has looked much better lately.
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Post #4 1/31/10 7:59:32PM
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State_Champ
MMA Sensei
Career record: 676-392
Season: 32-18 (#642)
Location: 802 Represent!
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I'm not sure any one forgot how easily Diaz gets cut up
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Post #5 1/31/10 8:11:08PM
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Sir_Karl
In Full Mount
Career record: 632-423
Season: 34-16 (#993)
Location: The Empire State
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How soon we all forget what? A TKO loss due to cuts?. Junk fight...toss it away. If the cuts would not have been so bad he would have submitted KJ...or even KOed him. He will beat Noons if they fight again. The guy has fought a serious who's who list in his career. Who has stopped him? He has been stopped once...way back in 2002. Not to mention he got revenge 2x on the fighter (Jeremy Jackson). Besides the Jackson and Noons debacles his only losses were super close decisions or split decisions. I want to see Diaz back in the UFC. He is one of the very best pound for pound fighters ever. Great stand up and awesome ground!
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Post #6 1/31/10 8:40:04PM
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spikerman19
Standup Guy
Career record: 236-160
Season: 30-19 (#1633)
Location: Clear Lake,California
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I hate hearing how great his "boxing" is, any one of these fighters would out strike Diaz:
170 lbs
St-Pierre
Alves
Hardy
Swick
Daley
Koscheck
Johnson
Saunders
I think he said the other day he could beat Silva as well. So "could" I, so "could" anybody. If he really thinks so he needs to say, "I would Silva and St. Pierre."
Last edited 1/31/10 9:11PM by spikerman19
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Post #7 1/31/10 9:10:30PM
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sbulldavid
MMA Sensei
Career record: 569-323
Season: 39-11 (#69)
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I don't think he's going to be dominated standing with any of those guys. He has the right build for welterweight. Everybody says he wouldn't last in a boxing ring, but that's a different kind of striking, and he lands an unheard of amount of punches. We tend to talk about his striking and ignore the angles he uses. This guy never get's the respect he deserves because he runs his mouth too much, but what he does is every bit as impressive as what Machida does. I hope the UFC brings him back someday, because he keeps getting better.
Last edited 1/31/10 9:42PM by sbulldavid
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Post #8 1/31/10 9:41:10PM
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bjj1605
MMA Sensei
Career record: 626-379
Season: 39-11 (#165)
Location: Chicago
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I don't like his personality, well at least my perception of it.
But the guy is a great fighter. He has real crisp stand up. He won't usually knock you out with one shot, but it wears on you. His jits is great, he catches really slick subs. And his wrestling is improving.
He's good enough to hang with any of the top 170 pounders in the UFC. He might not beat them all, but he's up there. I could see him beating swick and hardy for sure. He might have trouble with guys like Kos, Fitch and GSP though. They can take him down and prevent subs. But I doubt any one of them could finish him.
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Post #9 1/31/10 10:04:46PM
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soundboy1
Standup Guy
Career record: 339-248
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: nyc
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Posted by spikerman19
I hate hearing how great his "boxing" is, any one of these fighters would out strike Diaz:
170 lbs
St-Pierre
Alves
Hardy
Swick
Daley
Koscheck
Johnson
Saunders
I think he said the other day he could beat Silva as well. So "could" I, so "could" anybody. If he really thinks so he needs to say, "I would Silva and St. Pierre."
Really? How many times have you seen him fight? His boxing is better than 7 of the guys on that list...He would come in number 4 after GSP,Hardy and Swick...
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Post #10 1/31/10 10:21:23PM
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xdanish020
In Full Mount
Career record: 580-279
Season: 35-15 (#668)
Location: NY
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Posted by warglory
My how soon we all forget...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjS_-KnCkIg&feature=player_embedded
He was drained for that fight imo, he should never be below 170. I'd love to see a rematch at WW, I think Nick would destroy him.
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Post #11 1/31/10 10:39:41PM
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State_Champ
MMA Sensei
Career record: 676-392
Season: 32-18 (#642)
Location: 802 Represent!
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Posted by spikerman19
I hate hearing how great his "boxing" is, any one of these fighters would out strike Diaz:
170 lbs
St-Pierre
Alves
Hardy
Swick
Daley
Koscheck
Johnson
Saunders
I think he said the other day he could beat Silva as well. So "could" I, so "could" anybody. If he really thinks so he needs to say, "I would Silva and St. Pierre."
All this list does is make me wish Nick Diaz was in the UFC so we could see some of these sweet match ups
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Post #12 1/31/10 10:42:42PM
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xdanish020
In Full Mount
Career record: 580-279
Season: 35-15 (#668)
Location: NY
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Posted by spikerman19
I hate hearing how great his "boxing" is, any one of these fighters would out strike Diaz:
170 lbs
St-Pierre
Alves
Hardy
Swick
Daley
Koscheck
Johnson
Saunders
I think he said the other day he could beat Silva as well. So "could" I, so "could" anybody. If he really thinks so he needs to say, "I would Silva and St. Pierre."
His boxing is better than Swick, Kos, Johnson and Saunders....everyone else I think would be real close if it were just a standup fight with the two that excel the most imo being daley and alves
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Post #13 1/31/10 10:43:58PM
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warglory
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 448-302
Season: 21-20 (#2163)
Location: Portland, ME
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Posted by Sir_Karl
How soon we all forget what? A TKO loss due to cuts?. Junk fight...toss it away. If the cuts would not have been so bad he would have submitted KJ...or even KOed him. He will beat Noons if they fight again. The guy has fought a serious who's who list in his career. Who has stopped him? He has been stopped once...way back in 2002. Not to mention he got revenge 2x on the fighter (Jeremy Jackson). Besides the Jackson and Noons debacles his only losses were super close decisions or split decisions. I want to see Diaz back in the UFC. He is one of the very best pound for pound fighters ever. Great stand up and awesome ground!
He was getting outclassed in the stand up department, and he couldn't keep Noons on the ground. Nick needs to beat a few more top guys before I give him the nod of even being a top 15 in any respective division.
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Post #14 1/31/10 11:06:43PM
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EliasG
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Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Colton
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He got beat in that KJ fight no doubt, but regardless RIGHT NOW, he is going to be HARD to beat for anyone really. He really has stepped up his game and he can beat you from stand up, and on the ground. He's a tough fight for anyone. GSP's speed might make it hard for him and I'm sure GSP would have a crazy gameplan to stop Diaz too.
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Post #15 2/1/10 12:29:00AM
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