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MMA Sensei
Career record: 615-408
Season: 18-6 (#794)
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Being that we are still in our initial beta season, in conjunction with the consideration of a couple months worth of PM's, site feedback contacts, and forum posts regarding our current scoring system, we have made some updates which were completed today.
In the past, you would receive points for a fight's ending details ONLY if you correctly guessed the round number and the correct fighter. This has been altered so that you receive points (and a corresponding prediction fantasy bankroll bonus) for the ending details if you correctly predict the winner REGARDLESS of whether or not you have selected the finishing round. Many felt that making this change would more accurately reflect the extent of a user's predictive powers and knowledge by rewarding players for everything they have correctly picked.
New point totals for a fight are as follows:
Predict winner - 5 points
Predict fight end time (if winner has been predicted correctly) - 2 points
Predict ending details (if winner has been predicted correctly) - 2 points
Bonus for getting all three of these correct - 2 more points
In an effort to "level the playing field" we have also listened to the numerous suggestions that asked for something to be done about the "hot bouts". We did not want to eliminate this all together (sorry to all those that wanted it eliminated), but we have adjusted things so that each event now only has 1 hot bout in it.
A big thank you to the LARGE number of folks that took the time to contact us with detailed suggestions and explanations. With the help of everyone in the community we hope to continually refine and improve the playground to make it the most enjoyable MMA pit stop on the web 
EDIT: Please vote on this poll to help decide whether this new scoring system should be enacted for events that have already taken place.
Last edited 4/16/07 9:33PM by dothemmath
Edit note/reason: n/a
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Post #1 4/12/07 1:31:55PM
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Tamara
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 174-173
Season: 0-0 (#-)
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I don't agree with this at all. The point system that you had running should of been grandfathered in and not changed. Any changes made should of been from this date forward. AND exactly how did you decide what hot bouts you were going to remove from the fights that already were given points for?
Seems somewhat unfair. This LARGE number of people that complained I am assuming was the majority of the fight club members you have here. I think you should post the number of people that wanted the change vs. the number of people involved in your playground.
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Post #2 4/12/07 4:03:01PM
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tepid55
MMA Sensei
Career record: 1044-555
Season: 21-3 (#98)
Location: Texas
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I much prefer the new scoring system.
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Post #3 4/12/07 4:04:15PM
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Tamara
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 174-173
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Posted by tepid55
I much prefer the new scoring system.
Why?
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Post #4 4/12/07 4:14:04PM
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Pimpin
Career record: 322-172
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Toronto, ON
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Well, we can't please you all. I like the new system except for the hot bouts, I didn't realize so many people were complaining about this.
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Post #5 4/12/07 4:17:33PM
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Manfred
MMA Sensei
Career record: 528-319
Season: 17-7 (#794)
Location: Brasov, Romania
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Well, we can't please you all. I like the new system except for the hot bouts, I didn't realize so many people were complaining about this.
Agreed 100% I like the hot bouts too, but if the majority wanted less, that's fine. Keeps it more even if there is only one per event.
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Post #6 4/12/07 4:22:13PM
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Tamara
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 174-173
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Posted by MMA
Well, we can't please you all. I like the new system except for the hot bouts, I didn't realize so many people were complaining about this.
What's the number of complaints vs. the number of players?
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Post #7 4/12/07 4:23:31PM
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MMA Sensei
Career record: 615-408
Season: 18-6 (#794)
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Between forum posts like this, PM's send directly to me, and folks using the feedback form we had a pretty big number of requests for change. I do apologize if these changes aren't to everyone's liking, we were attempting to listen to the voice of the community. It should be noted that the changes do not result in anyone losing any fantasy money. In fact, most everyone that has been around for a few events will have a more money in their account due to credit received for fights where they had the ending details correctly selected, but not the ending round. Granted we may wind up with a little more "scoring gridlock" and folks being closer in score, but hopefully over the course of 1 season (10 events) this effect won't be felt as much. All in all, this update gives more credit to those that have predicted more things correctly, with the end goal being to have the winner be the one whose knowledge coupled with powers of prediction net them the most correct points via their picks.
Regarding the hot bouts: we took the middle road by making it 1 hot bout per event. The consensus from those who wanted this feature removed or nerfed was "there's no way you can remain competitive regardless of how good you do in other picks if you don't get the hot bouts 100% nailed". To give an added bonus though, we made it so that for fights where you guess all 3 items correctly you will receive a points bonus. On cards with lots of heavy favorites, there may not always even be a 2nd bout that is higly contested (for example, Pride 33's 2nd hot bout was a 76% - 24% matchup).
The site is technically still in beta for now (as has been marked on the site header), we're in some uncharted waters here, we haven't even completed 1 season yet, and we're just trying to do what the users ask to make things as enjoyable as possible... so any patience you can spare us as we tweak things is appreciated 
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Post #8 4/12/07 4:55:10PM
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shawneth
MMA Regular
Career record: 397-201
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
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I love the new scoring system. I was going to suggest it myself but i decided to keep my mouth shut. On the other hand, i liked the two hot bouts idea, it really seperates the people who chose correctly for those hard to pick fights.
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Post #9 4/12/07 5:01:32PM
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Tamara
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 174-173
Season: 0-0 (#-)
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Mod said:
"Between forum posts like this, PM's send directly to me, and folks using the feedback form we had a pretty big number of requests for change. I do apologize if these changes aren't to everyone's liking, we were attempting to listen to the voice of the community."
So, ha no pun intended, Dothemmath and let us know the numbers. The voice of the community would be the majority of members you have. I want to know this.
The link to the post you had only had 3 pages of complaints or "signed petition" a handful of people.
I don't agree with making the changes in the middle of the season. Why not wait until a new season begins? Just does not seem right to change things up in the middle of the game and take points away from people.
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Post #10 4/12/07 5:21:24PM
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shawneth
MMA Regular
Career record: 397-201
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
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Posted by Tamara
Mod said:
"Between forum posts like this, PM's send directly to me, and folks using the feedback form we had a pretty big number of requests for change. I do apologize if these changes aren't to everyone's liking, we were attempting to listen to the voice of the community."
So, ha no pun intended, Dothemmath and let us know the numbers. The voice of the community would be the majority of members you have. I want to know this.
The link to the post you had only had 3 pages of complaints or "signed petition" a handful of people.
I don't agree with making the changes in the middle of the season. Why not wait until a new season begins? Just does not seem right to change things up in the middle of the game and take points away from people.
Im pretty sure that no points are going to be taken away. I think it only will apply to all of the upcomming events. Unless i missed something that i read.
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Post #11 4/12/07 5:25:52PM
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shawneth
MMA Regular
Career record: 397-201
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
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Sorry, i just looked up all of my event picks and the ppoint distibution has changed. Sorry for my previous comment.
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Post #12 4/12/07 5:27:53PM
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Tamara
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 174-173
Season: 0-0 (#-)
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Go back and look over your picks history. They took away one hotbout where there was two and adjusted their points for the past events according to the new point system.
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Post #13 4/12/07 5:28:45PM
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D-Boy
MMA Regular
Career record: 161-107
Season: 0-0 (#-)
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I don't mind it
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Post #14 4/12/07 5:36:23PM
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CWall33
MMA Regular
Career record: 241-156
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Ohio
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Posted by shawneth
Posted by Tamara
I don't agree with making the changes in the middle of the season. Why not wait until a new season begins? Just does not seem right to change things up in the middle of the game and take points away from people.
Im pretty sure that no points are going to be taken away. I think it only will apply to all of the upcomming events. Unless i missed something that i read.
They took points away from some, and gave extra points to others.
Within my fight camp, 2 people gained points, and 4 lost. 1 person lost a LOT of points.
I agree with the new system, but not in the middle of a season, and especially not retroactive to events that have already taken place.
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Post #15 4/12/07 5:45:35PM
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