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Manitoba defending health care after bashing by UFC champ Brock Lesnar

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WINNIPEG - Manitoba does not provide "Third World" medical care, provincial health officials said following a public bashing from UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar.

Health Minister Theresa Oswald said she's willing to listen - and act on - criticism of the provincial health-care system. But she said she's a little more skeptical about comments from a self-proclaimed "conservative Republican" speaking out against the socialization of American health care.

"I will listen to critics and learn from critics but also evaluate the point of view from which they're coming," she said Thursday. "This is more about partisan American politics and bashing American health-care reform, and I'm not particularly interested in getting engaged in that. Canada has lots to be proud of in terms of providing health care for everyone.

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Somehow I don't think a guy that probably almost died (or was seriously ill at the very least) and personally experienced a Manitoba hospital is just saying these things to be political. Normal people, I'll exclude politicians because they do anything, and Brock is not a politician, normal people do not go to a hospital extremely ill and get great treatment and then proceed to say it was a third world hospital. Brock is not the only person to have issues with the Canadian health care system.

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I think the problem is that Brock didn't get special treatment because of who he is... In Canada we're all in the same line.... if you think about it, why should a professional athlete receive treatment before any one else??? ....

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Isnt Canada's health care free also?

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Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Isnt Canada's health care free also?

It's free if you want to let a tumor spread though your body for six months.

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Posted by Giant_Ochai


Posted by Twenty20Dollars

Isnt Canada's health care free also?

It's free if you want to let a tumor spread though your body for six months.



Thats just ignorant. Fact is, neither the US or Canadian health care system is perfect. Having experienced both, I'm proud to say that atleast in Canada the first thing I was asked at the hospital was "What is the problem?" instead of "how will you be paying for this?"

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Posted by Franklinfan47

Thats just ignorant. Fact is, neither the US or Canadian health care system is perfect. Having experienced both, I'm proud to say that atleast in Canada the first thing I was asked at the hospital was "What is the problem?" instead of "how will you be paying for this?"


I see nothing wrong with asking someone how they're going to pay. The fact is, there are some shady people (more than you think) out there that believe the world owes them something and have no intention of paying their medical bills. As much as it sucks, they've ruined it for everyone else.

I work in the mental health field and see it every day. The percentage of the population looking for a free ride is absurd.

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Come on, he was in freaking Manitoba. This is not a huge metropolis or something. I am glad his wife drove him over the border, I don't want my tax dollars helping someone who doesn't want it.

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Posted by emfleek
I see nothing wrong with asking someone how they're going to pay.




I completely disagree. We have seriously ill people that may not have the cash to pay for treatment. I think it's crap that we as human beings can let another fellow sit and rot because they are not financially stable.

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Posted by emfleek

I see nothing wrong with asking someone how they're going to pay. The fact is, there are some shady people (more than you think) out there that believe the world owes them something and have no intention of paying their medical bills. As much as it sucks, they've ruined it for everyone else.

I work in the mental health field and see it every day. The percentage of the population looking for a free ride is absurd.



So what happens if they cant pay? 'Greatest country in the world' just says, good luck see ya later? I love knowing I live in a country where a person's healthcare isn't mixed with the bottom lines of insurance companies.
IMO its fundamentally problematic to mix for profit business with peoples health care, sure if you have the money to pay for quality service, you'll get quality care. However....no money = no service and that's fine in a lot of areas of life, but when it comes to this your health, unacceptable to me. Once again....
Wealthy Canadians think Canadian health care sucks.....cuz they can and want to pay for an enhanced service (Private for profit service).....Poor Americans think American healthcare sucks, cuz its a hardship to afford basic coverage.
My point is I would rather live in a country that provides a quality standard service for all its citizens, as opposed to a country where an elite service is provided to those that can afford it. Greater good for the whole. I love the USA for a lot of reasons, but their healthcare could be a lot better considering resources at their disposal.

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Posted by gspfan


Posted by emfleek
I see nothing wrong with asking someone how they're going to pay.




I completely disagree. We have seriously ill people that may not have the cash to pay for treatment. I think it's crap that we as human beings can let another fellow sit and rot because they are not financially stable.



I didn't say refuse treatment. I said it's okay to ask how they're going to pay. There *is* a difference.

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Posted by crushedbacon

So what happens if they cant pay? 'Greatest country in the world' just says, good luck see ya later?


Again, read my previous post. I never said that treatment should be refused. I said it's perfectly fine to ask how someone is going to pay.

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I personally found it hilariously ignorant that brock writes off an entire countrys health care system based off his experience at one hospital. Even more laughable was how he supports his statement by comparing his experience at the number one hospital in the entire United States that " people fly all over the world to go to " with a hospital in a town with a population of 5700 !

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you know, i dont blame brock for saying what he said, he's used to being in private hospitals where if your flash around some $$ you get everything you need, in canada we all wait, first come first serve,unless theirs extreme cases, but i get why brock was so pissed, they probly had none of the equipment there and no specialists, thats the thing with canadian hospitals, takes forever to get an answer from them, and he doesnt seem like a patient person

and this is coming from a canadian whose been to doctors for enough reasons from the regular flu to major knee surgery

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Posted by emfleek


Posted by crushedbacon

So what happens if they cant pay? 'Greatest country in the world' just says, good luck see ya later?


Again, read my previous post. I never said that treatment should be refused. I said it's perfectly fine to ask how someone is going to pay.



I understand what your saying....
I'm just saying that situation sucks. A country as great as the USA is, a citizen shouldn't have to deal with that situation. Ok, they get treated, then leave feeling like **** cuz they know a giant medical bill is coming that they cant afford.

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