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dstlvb

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After looking at the P4P rankings it is loaded with guys like Fedor, Mirko, Rua, and Liddell at the top. I know the arguments for these guys being at the top. My question is where do the guys who have one titles at more than one wieght class fit in to the picture. I know almost no one is going to take randy against Fedor, but Randy has actually won a title in a different weight class, along with Hendo. Wandy has fought heavier and done well, yet gets no love. Hughes is #9, in a open wieght situation woudnt you take Wandy ove Hughes?

I guess the next question is what are the hardest weight classes to make a switch to. LH to HWY, LW to MW or others. Is it easier to go up or down?

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Post #1   4/10/07 7:46:51PM   

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The way things are going this year if Wandy fought Hughes I would bet on Hughes

Post #2   4/10/07 8:21:23PM   

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uve got too be kidding me

Post #3   4/10/07 8:46:22PM   

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Hughes is #9, in a open wieght situation woudnt you take Wandy ove Hughes?


Although your points about fighting in other weight classes are valid, I think you've made a mistake here. This isn't the way to think when deciding the pound for pound best. That's why it's "pound for pound" and not just the best.

Pound for pound rankings are based more on a fighter's accomplishments in relative situations. For example, BJ beating Hughes in the first fight was impressive because BJ is naturally a much smaller guy. A bigger guy like Wanderlei beating Hughes would be far less impressive and wouldn't do much to give Wanderlei a good place on the P4P ranking. One way to look at it is, who would you consider the best all around fighter based on the fighter's they've beaten? Consider who has been more dominant in his own weight class(es) rather than matching fighters of different weights together.

Post #4   4/10/07 10:23:20PM   

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Hughes over Wanderlei? WTF?

Post #5   4/10/07 10:38:48PM   

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I think the real atrocity is that Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto is ranked 8th in his weight class and 10th pound-for-pound. How can there be 7 guys in his weight class better than him and only 9 guys better over all? Weird.

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Posted by bruiser

I think the real atrocity is that Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto is ranked 8th in his weight class and 10th pound-for-pound. How can there be 7 guys in his weight class better than him and only 9 guys better over all? Weird.



Because he hasn't fought in the PRIDE or UFC before, I bet that is the biggest reason.Plus, several of his opponents have been no-names. As soonas he starts mixing it up with bigger names, his name will grow.

Post #7   4/11/07 2:45:41PM   

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Posted by bruiser

I think the real atrocity is that Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto is ranked 8th in his weight class and 10th pound-for-pound. How can there be 7 guys in his weight class better than him and only 9 guys better over all? Weird.



It might be because he is an all or nothing guy on the lists. Either people have him ranked high on the LW list and thus high on the PforP list or he isn't on either list, thus the more popular fighters are ranked ahead of him.

Just a thought though..... I don't know how the ranking math works so I can't produce an example.

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Post #8   4/11/07 3:05:51PM