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UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn's Saturday night win over top challenger Diego Sanchez was so convincing, so thorough, so utterly dominant, that Penn fans and MMA observers immediately began to question whether there is any challenge to "The Prodigy's" crown at 155 pounds.

UFC president Dana White says there is.

Post #1   12/13/09 7:19:51PM   

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It was an outstanding performance however I can think of a few fights I'd like to see first, guys who could actually make it to that level. Tyson Griffin, Gray Maynard, Fankie Edgar, and Jim Miller. Of course all these guys are still (at least) one killer performance away from rating a shot though, but still it's enough to keep BJ here for at least through 2010.

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Posted by jae_1833

It was an outstanding performance however I can think of a few fights I'd like to see first, guys who could actually make it to that level. Tyson Griffin, Gray Maynard, Fankie Edgar, and Jim Miller. Of course all these guys are still (at least) one killer performance away from rating a shot though, but still it's enough to keep BJ here for at least through 2010.



I think Frankie Edgar and Gray maynard should fight and the winner gets penn, after that i would love to see penn go back to 170 but not against gsp but against a good striker with good takedown defense like Alves. Man that would be a war, i think Penn would have a hard time with all alves leg kicks.

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Props to both of you if I can.

I think Maynard and Edgar are his last two challenges at 155. Problem is they've already fought each other and Gray came out the victor. So maybe Gray should get the next shot ASAP and then Frankie can get a shot afterwards if he's able to grab himself a win or two during that time. Also, that's asssuming BJ beats Maynard, which I'm pretty confident he will. After that, who else would deserve a shot at BJ?

It is very possible 155, 170 and 185 will be almost completely solidified and cleaned out within a year.

If the UFC were smart they'd also start looking to pick up some of that other 155 talent running around out there.

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Posted by jae_1833

It was an outstanding performance however I can think of a few fights I'd like to see first, guys who could actually make it to that level. Tyson Griffin, Gray Maynard, Fankie Edgar, and Jim Miller. Of course all these guys are still (at least) one killer performance away from rating a shot though, but still it's enough to keep BJ here for at least through 2010.



I think Frankie Edgar and Gray maynard should fight and the winner gets penn, after that i would love to see penn go back to 170 but not against gsp but against a good striker with good takedown defense like Alves. Man that would be a war, i think Penn would have a hard time with all alves leg kicks.



Alves Penn would be awesome.....there are a lot of good match ups at WW other than GSP for him, I like how Dana says he won't get an immediate title shot either....can you imagine if BJ was an in shape WW!!

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I agree with the article and every one on here. Props to all!!!

Penn should fight Gray and Frankie (Frankie will give him the better fight IMO) and then he should move up and fight Alves and Fitch before a third fight with GSP (that is if he wins all of the above)

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then he should move up and fight Alves and Fitch before a third fight with GSP (that is if he wins all of the above)



Not taking anyting away from Penn, but I would pick both Alves and Fitch over him.

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I may give him a sub chance on Alves, but not likely because he tends to stand and bang, but I would definately pick Fitch over BJ at this point.

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I think there are too many fighters at 170 who are very good AND will have the size advantage to beat BJ so I don't think BJ will be able to capture the WW title again....Not with GSP as champ.

However, I was intrigued by Joe Rogan's statement about BJ fighting at 145. I would love to see BJ fight Urijah, Jose Aldo, ect.....And wouldn't it be awesome for BJ's 'legacy' if he had a title in three separate weight classes?

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I think Gray Maynard and Frankie Edgar would simply be formalities. Both guys...outstanding fighters, just not P4P kind of potential. The LW division, IMO is just stacked with wrestlers who can't take BJ down. Gray Maynard would be the one potential bout that has the potential to be somewhat competetive, but Frankie Edgar vs Penn, is kind of like Cote vs Silva...a kind of in-between fight with a 99.9% certainty of the end result.

At 170lbs, there's a lot of challenges, like Koschek, Fitch, and Alves (particularly Alves). I would love to see any of those three bouts befor Maynard or Edgar.

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I honestly have no desire to see BJ vs anyone currently in the UFC at 155. I'll watch because I love watching BJ's fights. I agree with Jackelope, those 3 divs are getting thin with contenders.

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I would love to see some of the WEC fighters in the UFC,

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See the thing is, BJ is made for 155 and I still think he might have the same problem when he went up to fight GSP. Wont have to cut weight and then might not come into a fight at WW in the best shape because he's not having to cut weight.

Also the contenders at WW who are bigger I think would take out BJ. I wouldnt mind seeing BJ/Hughes 3 but other than that Idk. You have to look at 4 of the 5 losses of BJ have come to higher weight class fighters. Then the lone loss at 155 was a MD loss to Pulver.

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Even though i've posted this a few times already, i'm gonna post it again.

I think BJ should look at moving to 145 to fight Jose Aldo (or whoever holds the title when the fight is booked)

A few reasons for this:

It gives BJ a chance to further his legacy, by potentially becoming the first man to hold titles in three different weight classes.

WEC will gain a lot of exposure for it's PPV move if the fight is cross promoted by UFC/WEC.

It will be an all-out war!

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bj at welterweight should do everything he has done to prepare for the last couple fights except cut weight at the end.

maybe some catchweight fights for some of the welterweights that could cut a little and just like to be involved in good fights. Koscheck has talked about cutting to 155 before.

I don't think Koscheck or Fitch would have anything for BJ but I also thought BJ would beat Georges :)

if Penn could cut to 145 that'd be amazing to get the belt at 3 different weight classes but i don't think having won a belt is enough for bj. He wants to hold them at the same time and obviously guys feel like it's a bigger accomplishment if they can handle bigger guys.

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