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UFC 104 Results/Discussion (Spoilers)

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Post #166   10/25/09 12:58:56AM   

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Posted by telnights

I know some don't agree but I scored it the same as the judges did.



How can you possibly give Lyoto 3 rounds of that fight? I'm sorry but thats ridiculous, Lyoto never found his rhytm and it showed. I mean really what did Lyoto even do besides get kicked 70% of the time? did you see his face after the fight, hes cut up and breathing heavy while Shogun is unscaved and fresh.

Post #167   10/25/09 12:59:20AM   

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Posted by ncordless

I don't know guys... I'd say the fight was close enough not to be considered a robbery. Like I said I thought Shogun had edged it out but it was close.


Regardless it was a good, close fight that should be followed by an immediate rematch ASAP.



Ill take everyones word so far. Regardless as you said it seemed like a good close fight. Ill have to watch it a few times when the replays come out tomorrow.

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Post #168   10/25/09 12:59:27AM   

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The minute i saw the judges i told the people i watched the fight with that nothing good comes from Cecil judging. After the first round Machida landed one maybe two power shots, being the knees to the body as Shogun went for the takedown. Ridiculous.

Post #169   10/25/09 12:59:57AM   

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Posted by Shawn91111


Posted by ncordless

I don't know guys... I'd say the fight was close enough not to be considered a robbery. Like I said I thought Shogun had edged it out but it was close.


Regardless it was a good, close fight that should be followed by an immediate rematch ASAP.



Ill take everyones word so far. Regardless as you said it seemed like a good close fight. Ill have to watch it a few times when the replays come out tomorrow.



Dont listen to them, this was a travesty.

Post #170   10/25/09 1:00:58AM   

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not paying money for the UFC until something happens with the officiating.

I understand that it's the athletic commission who controls the judges and refs, but I just can't pay to watch this happen every single event. No more for me, I'll download them or something. Not dishing out money to watch this happen anymore.

Post #171   10/25/09 1:45:46AM   

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Finished 7-4 with 49 points and hit my parlay of Rumble, Joe Daddy, and Struve. Not that bad. Gotta say, I'm kinda shocked by this decision as well. I was rootin for Lyoto, but that just robbery. Thought the stoppage in the cain-rothwell fight was a little early too, but big ben was goin out anyways imo.

Bring on Dream 12

Post #172   10/25/09 1:52:07AM   

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Missed my big parlay thanks to Gormley!! Haha...

And I had Shogun winning 49-46 but thought most rounds were pretty close...- was shocked by the decision...but don't think it was the worst I have saw.

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Post #173   10/25/09 2:03:40AM   

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By the numbers it wasn't that close of a fight. An Shogun clearly won.

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

Shogun landed 82 strikes out of 149.
Lyoto landed 42 strikes out of 116.

Shogun had 55% accuracy
Lyoto had 36% accuracy

Shogun landed 17 shots to the head (12 power shots).
Lyoto landed 14 shots to the head (8 power shots).

Lyoto landed 24 shots to the body
Shogun landed 16 shots to the body

Shogun landed 49 leg kicks.
Lyoto landed 4 leg kicks.

Shogun landed 48 strikes from distance.
Lyoto landed 26 strikes from distance.

Shogun landed 34 strikes from the clinch.
Lyoto landed 16 strikes from the clinch.

Post #174   10/25/09 9:43:30AM   

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Posted by dstlvb

By the numbers it wasn't that close of a fight. An Shogun clearly won.

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Machida-Shogun.html

Shogun landed 82 strikes out of 149.
Lyoto landed 42 strikes out of 116.

Shogun had 55% accuracy
Lyoto had 36% accuracy

Shogun landed 17 shots to the head (12 power shots).
Lyoto landed 14 shots to the head (8 power shots).

Lyoto landed 24 shots to the body
Shogun landed 16 shots to the body

Shogun landed 49 leg kicks.
Lyoto landed 4 leg kicks.

Shogun landed 48 strikes from distance.
Lyoto landed 26 strikes from distance.

Shogun landed 34 strikes from the clinch.
Lyoto landed 16 strikes from the clinch.


A round-by-round accounting would be useful too, since the scoring system views the fight that way. If Fighter A decisively wins two rounds and Fighter B barely sneaks away with three rounds, the total stats could clearly favor Fighter A, but Fighter B would win. I'm not sure that's what happened here, but it might be.

Post #175   10/25/09 10:13:25AM   

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just finished watching the shogun vs machida fight and although it wasnt decisive i felt shogun won on points. He was the aggresor the entire fight and he definitly landed more strikes(mostly low kicks) and he did more damage. at the end of the fight machidas movement was limited due to the numerous leg and body kicks he had absorbed. machida did little damage and his attacks were few and far between. none of the rounds were dominant but i dont see how machida gets more than one. i guess you can go back to the boxing motto thats says you have to take a champs belt and maybe shogun didnt due enough but in my mind he did more than machida.

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