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Luis Cane Doesn't Really Want To Fight "Minotoro" Mogueira On 11/21

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Haven't these guys ever heard the old saying "nothing personal, it's just business"?



Well they signed the contract to fight. People can have preferences to who they wanna fight dosnt mean its gonna happen, let the guy have his opinion.



friends fight friends in this sport all of the time and dont complain.



Thats why I said they signed the contract.



According to this article he asked for a different fight and signed only after being told he had absolutely no choice in the matter. Big difference from signing without any argument and saying that you aren't looking forward to fighting your friend (Fedor and Barnett is a good example)

The fact that he tried to turn the fight down and ask for an american fighter in his place is what people are criticizing.

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Haven't these guys ever heard the old saying "nothing personal, it's just business"?



Well they signed the contract to fight. People can have preferences to who they wanna fight dosnt mean its gonna happen, let the guy have his opinion.



friends fight friends in this sport all of the time and dont complain.



Thats why I said they signed the contract.




The fact that he tried to turn the fight down and ask for an american fighter in his place is what people are criticizing.



I'm not in disagreement, I just think he should get some slack is all.

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fair enough.

Post #18   9/19/09 5:30:30PM   

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This is stupid on the ufc part, and I dont see how anyone can think its cool to have friends fighting. I dont think teamates and friends should fight, those kind of intimate relationships, need to go against each other. Now if its for a title or there are no other options, that is different.


To those who think Cane is not right, if he where to decline match after match that is one thing, but everyone should get at least one, if not more, fights they can decline. There are other fights he can fight, its the ufc, there are many quality opponents for him to face. Not only is it immoral in my opinion to force a fight like this, this is not golf or even football, this is mma. You also will get a hard to predict, stupid fight. Look at some of the other recent fights where they made these things happen, the fights where shitty. Come one Joe Silva, be a better matchmaker.

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to me this issue has much less to do with friendship than nationality.

He specifically asked for an American. Thats what I have a problem with, not his turning down the fight.

If you don't want to fight your friend thats one thing, but I think its unfair to the UFC and to Joe Silva to ask to fight only Americans.

If an American fighter insisted that he wanted to only fight Asians, he'd be ostracized, whats the difference here?

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Posted by JahanJahkesh

This is stupid on the ufc part, and I dont see how anyone can think its cool to have friends fighting. I dont think teamates and friends should fight, those kind of intimate relationships, need to go against each other. Now if its for a title or there are no other options, that is different.


To those who think Cane is not right, if he where to decline match after match that is one thing, but everyone should get at least one, if not more, fights they can decline. There are other fights he can fight, its the ufc, there are many quality opponents for him to face. Not only is it immoral in my opinion to force a fight like this, this is not golf or even football, this is mma. You also will get a hard to predict, stupid fight. Look at some of the other recent fights where they made these things happen, the fights where shitty. Come one Joe Silva, be a better matchmaker.



?? the most uninformed post ive ever read. come on joe silva be a better matchmaker? unprops for you sir

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This is getting to be a real problem. I hear Brazilians say they dont want to fight other Brazilians all the time. People talk about American patriotism all the time yet you dont ever hear someone say they wont fight another american. Yet its happens all the time with Brazilians. Im all for people being patriotic. But when you refuse to fight a countryman you really narrow the field a lot.

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I wouldn't want to Fight Minotoro if I was Cane either, Nogueira is better at all facets of MMA. And yes, even his stand up is better, he was a Pan American Boxing Champion. But I really hope this Fight goes down, it will be a great introduction for fans unfamiliar with Little Nog.

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I would ask not to have to fight team mates, friends, relatives, friends of relatives, relatives of team mates, friends of relatives of team mates anyone who could beat me, friends of anyone who could beat me. The list goes on and on and on and.............



and this is why you are not a fighter



Yep

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Well i hope that Cane is focused on fighting and not on not wanting to fight a friend. he needs this win to put him in the top of the div at 205. I cant believe that they put Lil Nog in there with such a threat in his debut!?!? but Joe Silva knows what he is doing and it should be a great fight.

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He needs to put his friendship aside and understand that this is the best matchup for him in the UFC. He is the worst of the best. I meen I like rogeiro, but is a top 10 lhw, that would lose to all other top 10 lhw. Banha needs to take this fight as it is, a stepping stone. He will get a chance to fight a top tier american lhw early 2010

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