Strikeforce's 205 Pound Problem |
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When I watched Gegard Mousasi blow through Babalu Sobral on the Strikeforce show I was relieved to see that the promotion was getting another star created on what amounted to a huge show. Now with the news that Antonio Rogerio Nogueira is on his way to the UFC the realization is setting in for me that Mousasi has nobody to fight. There is talk that Showtime is going to be running 12 MMA cards in 2010 which means that Strikeforce needs their champions to headline cards with some regularity.
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Post #1 8/19/09 1:15:41PM
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Mayhem13
MMA Sensei
Career record: 922-564
Season: 18-6 (#840)
Location: Ohio
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Strikeforce needs to pick up Filho and Arona before UFC does..
Then they could atleast have
Mousasi vs Southworth
Mousasi vs Arona
Mousasi vs Filho
And after that....they are screwed haha.
Then bring em all to the UFC! (Except Southworth)
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Post #2 8/19/09 1:22:35PM
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DaMaGeInC
MMA Regular
Career record: 897-567
Season: 17-7 (#1079)
Location: Coffeyville, Kansas
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if filho would have done well in the wec he would have went to the UFC instead he put together 2 horrible fights in a row. he needs to work on his striking big time and you think he would be good at it with a mike tyson tattoo on his arm. The UFC has do do everthing in its power to pouch Mousasi from strkeforce and dream
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Post #3 8/19/09 2:30:23PM
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Mayhem13
MMA Sensei
Career record: 922-564
Season: 18-6 (#840)
Location: Ohio
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Posted by DaMaGeInC
if filho would have done well in the wec he would have went to the UFC instead he put together 2 horrible fights in a row. he needs to work on his striking big time and you think he would be good at it with a mike tyson tattoo on his arm. The UFC has do do everthing in its power to pouch Mousasi from strkeforce and dream
I agree Filho missed a shot at fighting in the UFC already..but he looked to be focused and in shape again aggainst Manhoef and walked through him pretty easily...so hopefully he is back and ready to fight again.
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Post #4 8/19/09 2:55:08PM
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Jesse_Canadian_MMA
Belt Contender
Career record: 799-557
Season: 7-5 (#2072)
Location: Windsor Ontario
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Filho is a beast and had a bad outing or two , it happens , I would love to see him in the ufc but this topic is about Mousasi and theres no other place for him other then the ufc so he has 3 fights with strikforce? 2 left then and I dont know who he is going to get to fight but I'm sure theres some amazing 205ers out there that arn't or haven't fought for the big 5
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Post #5 8/19/09 4:22:54PM
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sclasclemski
Belt Contender
Career record: 239-151
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I wrote this in another thread but I think Strikeforce's only hope @205 is to start holding Bellator style tournaments to build up contenders from unknowns...use the Challenger series for the early rounds and then put the finals on showtime the winner getting a crack at Moussasi...with Dream being able to occupy him some of the time this gives SF a little bit of time to find someone to throw in there with him...but bottomline is he needs to be in the UFC
Although I do like the thought of him moving to Heavyweight with Strikeforce to test the waters there alittle more...at least that would give him some TV time
Last edited 8/19/09 5:02PM by sclasclemski
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Post #6 8/19/09 4:59:47PM
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prozacnation1978
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 993-519
Season: 20-4 (#43)
Location: san diego
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the top 10 light heavy in the world are all in the ufc now, have fun finding any 205 pounders worthy of a title shot
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Post #7 8/19/09 6:40:52PM
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whardin19
MMA Sensei
Career record: 679-438
Season: 9-4 (#1536)
Location: The Bend, Indiana
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Gegard needs to come to UFC point blank. But as for Strikeforce I don't know if theres much they can do. All the talent at 205 is in the UFC. There's a few options to fight Gegard out there. But the talent is thin.
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Post #8 8/19/09 6:43:14PM
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MMA-San
In Full Mount
Career record: 661-466
Season: 18-5 (#753)
Location: AZ
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Travis Lutter, Dean Lister...Matt Lindland moving up...there will always be options...its good, Moussasi will be able to 100% perfect his trade before his UFC run.
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Post #9 8/19/09 7:03:48PM
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fizz
MMA Regular
Career record: 983-514
Season: 18-6 (#859)
Location: Gatineau,Québec,Canada
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Why i dont see any mentions of Raphael Calvancante here ... Hes a BEAST STILL!!
YEah he got KTFO by Kyle but who cares this guy is still one fight away from a title shot IMO!!
I oredict him submiting Jared Hamman and then geting the title shot...
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Post #10 8/19/09 7:04:47PM
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postman
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 564-321
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Delmont ,Pa
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Filo was out of shape at 185 now you want him at 205 not going to work.
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Post #11 8/19/09 11:59:09PM
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MODesty
Career record: 988-521
Season: 19-5 (#358)
Location: Oklahoma
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Well lets looks at some of the ones people have listed.
Lutter - Is a MW that couldn't make it in the UFC at that weight class. He also hasn't fought in over year 04/08. He also has conditioning issues. So dont see how him fighting at LHW would make for a real challenge for Gegard. He would be a b-level LHW at best. Isn't even a top ten MW which is much tinner weight class across the board than LHW.
Lister - Another MW who wasn't very large for MW. Lister lacked striking and good take downs. He would also be a B-level LHW. Now I know he has fought at LHW but was very small for the weight class. He also hasn't fought in almost a year. Also like Lutter he wasn't even a top 10 MW.
Lindland - Hasn't looked very good in a while. Lacks striking just like the 2 above. Also just like the 2 above is a MW that isn't even ranked in the top 10. He is also coming off a huge KO loss to a MW.
Southworth - Yes he is a LHW but is a b-level fighter at best. He is also coming off to a loss to the very same guy Gegard just beat in 1 min.
Arona - He is the best true LHW fighter on this list but the fact that he hasn't fought in over 2 years tells us something is wrong. His last fight was to a guy that got beat by the same guy Southworth lost to and that guy is Sobral and we know how his last fight went down.
Filho - Has some major issues in his life and hasn't looked good in 2 years now. He also has been out of shape for a while now. He was a great fighter at MW but hasn't shown anything close to that in a long time.
So out of 6 fighters 4 of them listed are MWs. Now don't get me wrong I enjoy watching some of these guys fight but doesn't make any of them true top level LHW and don't see any of them ever breaking in to the top 10 at LHW.
It really is a shame that Gegard is stuck in SF for a while because he is at that point right now I think he could really take off with the right fights it just none of those fights are in SF. Fighters have a short window to truly become great and I think his time in SF is taking away from that.
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