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Manfred
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Recap (in my words): He is NOT demanding co-promotion, but has a 3 fight deal with M-1 so for now, he has no choice. He also is not against exclusitivity. Doesn't think he's a great fighter and doesn't care about rankings or legacy.
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Post #1 7/31/09 2:50:46PM
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BigIP
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Got to love Fedor. He is so humble. The way I see it, it's like getting a Japanese baseball player from Japan. First you have to compensate the Japanese team he is on to get rights to him. Since Fedor still has 3 fights left on his contract M1 needs to be compensated. The Red Sox paid $51 million to Daisuke's Japanese team just for the rights to negotiate with him.
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Post #2 7/31/09 3:34:33PM
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FlashyG
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As far as i'm concerned offering them a cut of the PPV money was doing just that.
It seems to me that what M1 is asking for in your analogy would be the equivalent of that Japanese baseball team asking to co-promote every single Boston Red Sox game and share equally in all the teams profits.
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Post #3 7/31/09 3:40:07PM
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BigIP
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The Japanese team probably would want to co-promote if they weren't compensated with the $51 million. Basically the UFC needs to buy the rights of Fedor from M1. So M1 says in 3 fights we would have made X amount of dollars with Fedor. Pay us that amount and you can have him.
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Post #4 7/31/09 3:57:49PM
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McBee
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How many fights is the M-1 Global contract!? he has already fought like 3 or 4 times under them Lindland, Sylvia and Arlovski was their anyone else? spanning over how many years if there is so much in between time every fight.
Go fight three quick fights with Strikeforce/CBS(Overeem, Rogers and I ran out of fighters) and then come back to the negotiation table with the UFC with Vadim the agent not the Corp. But I do not wish ill for Coker so maybe make an agreement with dream or sokagou or whatever, fighting two no name 7 foot guys and Barnett(WWE Rules) we do not need two japanese promotions anyway. I only know two of their stable of fighters each.
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Post #5 7/31/09 3:59:14PM
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Posted by BigIP
The Japanese team probably would want to co-promote if they weren't compensated with the $51 million. Basically the UFC needs to buy the rights of Fedor from M1. So M1 says in 3 fights we would have made X amount of dollars with Fedor. Pay us that amount and you can have him.
I'd be willing to bet that, if that IS the case, it's already been addressed.
It comes down to co-promotion and co-promotion only. I highly doubt that M-1 is interested in a contract buyout. They want to milk this thing for everything it's worth, which is why they're trying to negotiate a co-promotion in the first place.
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Post #6 7/31/09 3:59:51PM
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Shadymlm
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Dana White said it best "Fedor doesnt want to fight the best so f*** him" IMO Fedor = best P4P chicken. Youre only as good as your competition.
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Post #7 7/31/09 4:02:15PM
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McBee
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Posted by Shadymlm
Dana White said it best "Fedor doesnt want to fight the best so f*** him" IMO Fedor = best P4P chicken. Youre only as good as your competition.
Randy could not get around the UFC how do you expect Fedor to get around a Russian company with a KGB pistol at his back.
Fedor wants the UFC but he has to fight three more for the ***** and then come back to the table
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Post #8 7/31/09 4:05:49PM
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Rush
Laying down the beats
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Posted by McBee
How many fights is the M-1 Global contract!? he has already fought like 3 or 4 times under them Lindland, Sylvia and Arlovski was their anyone else? spanning over how many years if there is so much in between time every fight.
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He has fought 3/6 fights towards his M1 contract. The Lindland fight was prior to the M1 contract. Choi, Sylvia and Arlovski.
His contract was 6 fights and 2 years. The 2 years is up very soon.
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Post #9 7/31/09 4:23:52PM
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McBee
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Posted by Rush
Posted by McBee
How many fights is the M-1 Global contract!? he has already fought like 3 or 4 times under them Lindland, Sylvia and Arlovski was their anyone else? spanning over how many years if there is so much in between time every fight.
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He has fought 3/6 fights towards his M1 contract. The Lindland fight was prior to the M1 contract. Choi, Sylvia and Arlovski.
His contract was 6 fights and 2 years. The 2 years is up very soon.
but Bodog was always pushing M-1, 2 years is not up yet? years does not really matter when he kills every organization that tries to pay him.
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Post #10 7/31/09 4:26:32PM
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Posted by Manfred
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Recap (in my words): He is NOT demanding co-promotion, but has a 3 fight deal with M-1 so for now, he has no choice. He also is not against exclusitivity. Doesn't think he's a great fighter and doesn't care about rankings or legacy.
Then we can all blame M-1. Whether he is ignorant of the truth , or unable to accept the UFC's offer with the UFC becuase of his m-1 contract , I still don't think this is the UFC's fault . The gave more money, gave on the sambo, and were even willing to let Fedor sport M-1 signage all over their PPV's.M-1 gave nothing at all, and then have the audacity to say the UFC isn't negotiating . Dude should straight up be a political spin doctor. M-1-Vadim-the ruskiemafia-whatever-Co-promotion is not a reasonable demand .Yes, I kind of pitty Fedor situation, but I am still pissed over the whole thing. So lets all hope Fedor beats down Alistair/Rogers/and Werdum quickly, can actually get out of his M-1 deal after that, and then come to the UCFC. M-1 is still delusional hippys in my book.
Last edited 7/31/09 7:37PM by hippysmacker
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Post #11 7/31/09 6:33:36PM
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cheesy-maggot
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Posted by Shadymlm
Dana White said it best "Fedor doesnt want to fight the best so f*** him" IMO Fedor = best P4P chicken. Youre only as good as your competition.
With what he said it seems like he does want to come to the UFC, he just can't. Idk why that would make him a chicken.
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Post #12 7/31/09 6:34:46PM
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Rush
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Posted by McBee
but Bodog was always pushing M-1, 2 years is not up yet? years does not really matter when he kills every organization that tries to pay him.
Fedor committed to a non-exclusive, two-year and six-fight deal with M-1 Global in October 2007, which was after he fought Lindland. Also, Lindland was the only BoDog fight he did.
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Post #13 7/31/09 6:52:15PM
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jascri
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Why would he even nogotiate with the UFC if he has 3 fights or 2 years left on his contract with M-1? Just to piss people off and make himself look like a puss.
I'm with most everyone else: there's no one for fedor to fight except in the UFC, so if he's not fighting in the UFC than I can care less about what scrubs he fights or what he does in his career. It's time to forget about Fedor and M-1 and get on the real athletes of MMA. Like HENDO!!!!!
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Post #14 7/31/09 8:55:19PM
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xAcidburNx
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Posted by FlashyG
As far as i'm concerned offering them a cut of the PPV money was doing just that.
It seems to me that what M1 is asking for in your analogy would be the equivalent of that Japanese baseball team asking to co-promote every single Boston Red Sox game and share equally in all the teams profits.
dude your avatar is awesom. what fight was that and what kind of inverted triangle was that. ive seen ryan hall pull it off from his back in north south position but not like that
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Post #15 7/31/09 9:04:13PM
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