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Mauricio Rua Doesn't Deserve A Title Shot Against Lyoto Machida

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That perhaps slightly skewed opinion comes from Machida's training partner, UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva. Silva feels that despite having much respect for Rua he didn't fight enough to deserve a shot at the belt.

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Post #1   7/28/09 6:45:24AM   

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Whether that is or isn't true I would say unless the fans are content with the belt sitting around for 9 months or more then this was the best move by the UFC that they could make other than forcing Rampage into the shot

Post #2   7/28/09 6:50:32AM   

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I have thought about this also, but the only person I could see deserving a title shot besides Shogun would be Jardine. As much as I would love to see him fight Machida I just can't see someone getting a title shot after coming off a loss no matter how close a fight it was. So if Shogun doesn't deserve a title shot, who in the lhw does? Also if Silva doesn't think Shogun deserves it why doesn't he man up and fight Machida then? BFF my ass he just doesn't want to loose, you see plenty of training partners fighting each other and from what I have seen those are some bad ass fights. Silva and Machida need to stop rubbing each others butts and fight.

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Post #3   7/28/09 7:20:30AM   

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Posted by sclasclemski

Whether that is or isn't true I would say unless the fans are content with the belt sitting around for 9 months or more then this was the best move by the UFC that they could make other than forcing Rampage into the shot



I was totally going to go the other way with this but yeah I guess you are totally right. I would like the belts to stay as active as possible. Just makes me think though that at one point in time Jardine deserved a shot but I guess the timing wasn;t right for him.

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looks like anderson thought his name was joe silva for a minute there.

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Well, Anderson got his shot directly after destroying Leben at a fight night event. Did he deserve the title shot? I think not. But he absolutely dominated and knocked out the champion, so he seemed to be ready.

If Shogun is able to knock out machida, nobody would question his shot after that. that's just the fight game. And when you look at the LHW division, who else is coming off a win over a top opponent?

Rampage defeats Jardine -> but is injured and buisy with TUF.
Luiz Cane is 4-0, last win against Cantwell with an UD -> not good enough
Rich Franklin coming off a win over Wanderlei -> but lost a SD to Henderson before that. he needs one more win before a shot at the LHW title.
Dan Henderson -> wants to stay at middleweight
Brandon Vera -> needs more wins
Jon Jones is 3-0 -> too early
Kristof Soszinsky is 3-0 - too early

Everybody else just lost or isn't even in the picture. You see there's not much of another fighter taking that contender spot right now.

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Posted by XblacksheepX

Well, Anderson got his shot directly after destroying Leben at a fight night event. Did he deserve the title shot? I think not. But he absolutely dominated and knocked out the champion, so he seemed to be ready.




My thoughts exactly. Good post.

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This coming from a guy who got a title shot after beating Chris Leben...

Post #8   7/28/09 9:13:25AM   

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i mean why push machida to defend bj penn went a whole year before defending, silva is gonna go awhile as well as brock lesnar won't defend again till probably feb
shogun needed another big win, to get a shot

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OK so Anderson wanted a big fight with Forrest Griffin, right?

I wonder what his thoughts would be on how much Forrest deserved a title shot... KO'd by Jardine, beats unranked opponent, beats ranked opponent, title shot, is I believe how it went... sounds a little familiar if you ask me

Or Lesnar... loss / win / title fight

Rampage... Beats middleweight Eastman, title shot

Or HIMSELF for that matter... Beats Leben, title shot, lol

Post #10   7/28/09 10:57:56AM   

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Lets face it to the causual fan Shogun is kinda hot he just koed Chuck so they run that replay 1 million times before the fight and ppl will buy ppv. Right or wrong its going to make money.

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It's a fight with Shogun that people are going to pay big money to see...

Shogun had a really bum knee, and got choked out by a very very game Forrest Griffin. He looked awful against Mark Coleman, who beat Stephan Bonnar and proved he can still hang at 205. He absolutely demolished Chuck Lidell with a LEFT HOOK and borderline (Yet to be determined) knocked him into retirement.

Does he deserve the title shot? Probably not. If he wins just one round on one judge's scorecard come UFC 104 though, he will have done something that nobody else has done, and thus justified his title shot.

I was thinking about flying to Cali to watch this actually. Should be a good fight.

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I guess Filho is the best MW in the world too, right?

Please tell me more about your own teammates. I'm enjoying your highly unbiased, non-hypocritical, and well-thought out opinions.

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i wonder if anderson is afraid that shogun can defeat lyoto...

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Posted by xdanish020

This coming from a guy who got a title shot after beating Chris Leben...



Although I cant think of anyone who deserves a title shot more then shogun , Rich asked to fight anderson . The MW division was shallow at the time . Anderson was the 3x defending cage rage champ . Anderson had recently decimated Rivera (who fought 3 competitive rounds with rich) .

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