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jaba
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Career record: 18-18
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Not only is Penn just a way cooler guy then pulver, but he also could teach you a helluva lot more then pulver.
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Post #16 4/6/07 5:34:00AM
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Mastodon2
MMA Sensei
Career record: 188-114
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Location: Newcastle England
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I dont actually like either Penn or Pulver as people, or fighters, but I think its similar to how it was in TUF3
Tito = Awesome coach, a lot to teach his guys
Shamrock = Not an awesome coach
So I think it will be
Penn = Loads to learn from him, his guys will do well
Pulver = Nowhere near as much knowledge as Penn, his team will struggle, unless the team members were considerably stronger than Penn's when they start the show.
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Post #17 4/6/07 9:29:51AM
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the-james
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Yeah id diffinitly want to be on penns team, like somebody said last night if you want to be one dimensional pulvers team is a perfect fit for you
Penn all the way!!1=
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Post #18 4/6/07 10:12:56AM
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shackle
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Did you watch his last two fights or did you miss them?
BJ does have alot of talent, but the respect he get is ridiculous.
Training is part of being a talented fighter. He shouldn't be so high on the P4P greatest imo. Ttill he gets back to the old BJ, and stop gassing out in his fights.
I'm not saying Pulver is better, but I think it's sad so many people love BJ when he lets you guys down by gassing out, and not training like he should. BJ gets less of my respect due to this fact he has so many great ability's, but he screws it up not training as hard as he should.
Yeah he could of, would of, almost... but he didn't.
Personally I don't like being let down, and If i am I don't make excuses I tell it like it is. I don't hop of the bandwagon cause it seems to be what everyone else is doing.
Posted by FortySixBelow
I don't see why people think BJ's conditioning is so bad...
But anyhow...
Point here is...
Penn all the way...
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Post #19 4/6/07 12:51:47PM
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fedorwins1
MMA Sensei
Career record: 272-134
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Location: Amish Country aka Pennsylvania
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Penn is a more versatile coach, but Pulver has better fighters.
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Post #20 4/6/07 2:09:32PM
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randyleprechaun
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Id rather be trained by Penn. But if i was asked to put up my hand and basically punk out Jens Pulver, id keep it down and do the manly thing! I dont agree with what he did, but i suppose it made good t.v
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Post #21 4/6/07 4:54:45PM
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MMA
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Penn has a wider skill set, so he has more to offer. The problem is, I don't think he will offer them to you. I believe Pulver genuinely cares about his fighters and wants to see them succeed, while Penn does not (as much).
I am basing this on Penn's and Pulver's comments during the interview at UFN9.
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Post #22 4/6/07 5:16:37PM
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Conebone69
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 580-317
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Location: Illinois
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I would want to be on Pulver's team.
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Post #23 4/6/07 5:18:37PM
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dstlvb
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Penn didnt just do it out of the blue. He basically thought Pulver tired the guys out on purpose so he coudnt get a good look and Penn was pissed. Pulver has been talking all shit and Penn put it back in his face. Pulver got what he deserved if you ask me. Just Penns way of talking shit. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander
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Post #24 4/6/07 6:13:55PM
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Career record: 831-675
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Posted by Mastodon2
I dont actually like either Penn or Pulver as people, or fighters, but I think its similar to how it was in TUF3
Tito = Awesome coach, a lot to teach his guys
Shamrock = Not an awesome coach
So I think it will be
Penn = Loads to learn from him, his guys will do well
Pulver = Nowhere near as much knowledge as Penn, his team will struggle, unless the team members were considerably stronger than Penn's when they start the show.
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Post #25 4/6/07 6:25:56PM
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Zvonimir
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Since Jens didn't bring Miletich as an assistant (not that he isn't busy enough) , Team Penn without a doubt.
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Post #26 4/6/07 6:55:48PM
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Career record: 1043-564
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Team Penn
Grey Maynard
Matt Wiman
Gabe Rudiger
Joe Lauzon
Rob Emerson
Andy Wang
Noah Thomas
Alan Berube- already lost
Team Pulver
Corey Hill
Nate Diaz
Brandon Melendez
Marlon Sims
Manny Gamburyan
Cole Miller- already won
Brian Geraghty
Wayne Weems
I think Jens definitely has the more talented team. Hill's physical advantages are obvious, If he has sub-defense he should win. He was an all state wrestler and his reach is sick. Nate Diaz was my pick before the show. I've seen him fight, and he is like a shorter Nick. Cole Miller has been good at 145, but I think he needs to put on some muscle to be the winner at this weight. As for Penn's team, Maynard is a dominant wrestler. Wiman looked Good against Fisher till he got rocked. Lauzon did Ko pulver, we'll see what else he's got. These are the top 6 to me, and there evenly split between teams, but I think Pulver's top 2 are the most likely to win. However, every year there seems to be a surpise finalist. Tuf 1 -Florian. Tuf 2 _Imes, Rashad. and Cummo all surprised me. Tuf 3 Grove and Haynes Tuf 4 was different because we all knew more about the fighter's.If Rudiger were in better shape I would include him, but he seems he emotional, on top of the chubbiness.I'm sticking with Nate to win though.
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Post #27 4/6/07 7:27:12PM
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shackle
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Yeah I feel the same way from the comments.
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Penn has a wider skill set, so he has more to offer. The problem is, I don't think he will offer them to you. I believe Pulver genuinely cares about his fighters and wants to see them succeed, while Penn does not (as much).
I am basing this on Penn's and Pulver's comments during the interview at UFN9.
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Post #28 4/6/07 8:19:40PM
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FortySixBelow
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Posted by shackle
Did you watch his last two fights or did you miss them?
BJ does have alot of talent, but the respect he get is ridiculous.
Training is part of being a talented fighter. He shouldn't be so high on the P4P greatest imo. Ttill he gets back to the old BJ, and stop gassing out in his fights.
I'm not saying Pulver is better, but I think it's sad so many people love BJ when he lets you guys down by gassing out, and not training like he should. BJ gets less of my respect due to this fact he has so many great ability's, but he screws it up not training as hard as he should.
Yeah he could of, would of, almost... but he didn't.
Personally I don't like being let down, and If i am I don't make excuses I tell it like it is. I don't hop of the bandwagon cause it seems to be what everyone else is doing.
Posted by FortySixBelow
I don't see why people think BJ's conditioning is so bad...
But anyhow...
Point here is...
Penn all the way...
Like i said. I need to watch GSP vs. Penn again to really make a comment but what i remember about that fight is i felt GSP did have take down later on if i remember but really couldnt mount any offence...I thought Penn won that fight..
Now, last time i checked he had hurt himself at the end of RD1...against Hughes..and before that i thought he completely dominated him.
Now, did i rank him as P4P ... NO.(his record doesnt put him there yet) I AGREE WITH YOU HERE.
Does he deserve a hell of a lot of respect for his level of skill and talent....YES
As a coach...Definitely
I just think that since he paid the price for his lack of conditioning i dont think it will happen again. I can excuse one lacksidasical performance but doing it again just makes you look like you don't care.
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Post #29 4/6/07 8:49:40PM
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casey64
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Penn
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