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who are your top 5 guys in each weight class, and guys who are already fighting exclude them

lightweight
1. sanchez
2.maynard
3.edgar
4.griffin
5. guida

welter
1. swick
2.kammpman
3. fitch
4. kos
5. hardy

middlew
1. okami
2. hendo
3. maia
4. marquardt
5. bisping

lightheavy
1. rampage
2. shogun
3. griffin
4. evans
5. franklin

heavy
1. carwin
2. velasquez
3. big nog
4. couture
5. dos santos

with over 150 fighters on contract, even though i was first against it, i do think the ufc needs to make or open up another weight class at 195 or 220

Post #1   7/2/09 9:51:21AM   

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I pretty much agree with everything except that Nate should be higher then Maia because hes definitely beaten way better fighters where Maia has been beating C-B level guys. Nice list tho! Mad pumped for the end of the year!

Post #2   7/2/09 10:58:32AM   

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LW:
1.Sanchez
2.Maynard
3.Edgar
4.Griffin
5.Sherk
WW:
1.Swick
2.Paulo
3.Kampman
4.Fitch
5.Kos
MW:
1.Marquardt
2.Okami
3.Maia
4.Henderson
5.Bisping
LHW:
1.Rampage
2.Evans
3.Griffin
4.Franklin
5.Cane
Heavy:
1.Carwin
2.Velasquez
3.Randy
4.Big Nog
5.Junior


You have a theme of not having a contender alreayd in line, Florian, ranked, so not sure why you put Shogun there, hes already fighting. Are rankings are close to identical except im thinking you must have forgot about Paulo Thiago. Debut fight or not, he has to be higher than Josh Koschek. I love ranking threads.

Post #3   7/3/09 12:43:19AM   

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Posted by JahanJahkesh
Are rankings are close to identical except im thinking you must have forgot about Paulo Thiago. Debut fight or not, he has to be higher than Josh Koschek. I love ranking threads.



Mostly agreed, although for a "contenders" ranking, not just a general top ten, I think it's important to take in factors like marketability, name recognition, and recent fights at the top of the food chain. For instance, I would put Griffin ahead of Evans because Evans has to win a few before fighting the current champion, Machida, again even though Griffin lost to Evans in his last fight. Maynard is probably more deserving than Sanchez; I put Okami at #1 as a sign of protest.

Lightweight: 1. Sanchez 2. Maynard 3. Edgar 4. Guida 5. Griffin
Welterweight: 1. Kampmann 2. Swick 3. Fitch 4. Hardy 5. Thiago
Middleweight: 1. Okami 2. Henderson 3. Marquardt 4. Maia 5. Bisping
Light Heavyweight: 1. Jackson 2. Griffin 3. Evans 4. Franklin 5. Cane
Heavyweight: 1. Carwin 2. Couture 3. Velasquez 4. Nogueira 5. dos Santos

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LW:
1.Maynard
2. Sanchez
3. Edgar
4.Sherk
5. Griffin

WW:
1.Swick
2.Fitch
3. Kampmann
4. Thiago
5. Koscheck

MW:
1. Marquardt
2. Maia
3. Okami
4. Henderson
5. Bisping

LHW:
1. Jackson
2. Evans
3. Griffin
4. Cane
5. Jardine

HW:
1. Carwin
2. Velasquez
3. Kongo
4. Nogueira
5.Couture

Post #5   7/3/09 12:18:14PM   

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LW:
1. Edgar
2. Sanchez
3. Maynard
4. Guida
5. Sherk

WW:
1. Swick
2. Kampmann
3. Hardy
4. Fitch
5. Davis

MW:
1. Marquardt
2. Maia
3. Okami
4. Hendo
5. Bisping

LHW:
1. Shogun
2. Rampage
3. Franklin
4. Evans
5. Cane

HW:
1. Carwin
2.Velasquez
3. Couture
4. Nogueira
5. Dos Santos

Of all the divisions I would now say that MW is now the most stacked. With Akiyama coming in and Dana talking about Vitor, I think Anderson is going to have to work harder to keep is belt.

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my bad on shogun for got about his fight in oct
then number 5 would be luis cane

i am not sold on paulo even if he beats fitch i won't be sold but if he does beat fitch i would have him in top 3 for sure

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I pretty much agree with the lists you all made...

And I might be the only one...but I think Joe Lauzon is top 5 contender....just not sure who he would replace...Guida maybe...

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True Dat, I can understand you not being sold on Paulo Thiago, but if he beats Jon Fitch how could you not be?


He would be debuting in the ufc with wins over Fitch and Koschek, there is nothing flukey about that. This is not baseball, this is mma.

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Posted by chickmagnet

LW:
1. Edgar
2. Sanchez
3. Maynard
4. Guida
5. Sherk

WW:
1. Swick
2. Kampmann
3. Hardy
4. Fitch
5. Davis

MW:
1. Marquardt
2. Maia
3. Okami
4. Hendo
5. Bisping

LHW:
1. Shogun
2. Rampage
3. Franklin
4. Evans
5. Cane

HW:
1. Carwin
2.Velasquez
3. Couture
4. Nogueira
5. Dos Santos

Of all the divisions I would now say that MW is now the most stacked. With Akiyama coming in and Dana talking about Vitor, I think Anderson is going to have to work harder to keep is belt.





How in the world are you putting Edgar at number 1 when Maynard beat him straight up?



And at least for the moment, Forrest Griffin has to be in the ufc top 5.

Post #10   7/4/09 4:07:31PM   

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Posted by JahanJahkesh


Posted by chickmagnet

LW:
1. Edgar
2. Sanchez
3. Maynard
4. Guida
5. Sherk

WW:
1. Swick
2. Kampmann
3. Hardy
4. Fitch
5. Davis

MW:
1. Marquardt
2. Maia
3. Okami
4. Hendo
5. Bisping

LHW:
1. Shogun
2. Rampage
3. Franklin
4. Evans
5. Cane

HW:
1. Carwin
2.Velasquez
3. Couture
4. Nogueira
5. Dos Santos

Of all the divisions I would now say that MW is now the most stacked. With Akiyama coming in and Dana talking about Vitor, I think Anderson is going to have to work harder to keep is belt.





How in the world are you putting Edgar at number 1 when Maynard beat him straight up?



And at least for the moment, Forrest Griffin has to be in the ufc top 5.



He lost to maynard yes...but since then he has picked up bigger wins. Beating Sherk, and Franca. When Maynard beat Clementi, who is out of the ufc, and Jim Miller.

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That does not matter and it does not add up. He beat Edgar and Gray is still undefeated. There is no justification for putting Edgar above him, its makes your credibility take a major hit, and I am not as much a fan of Maynard as I am Edgar.


And again, how in the world do you not have Forrest in the ufc top 5, when he is recognized as a world top 5 lhw.



Dude, I 100% disagree with both of those.

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I agree Maynard above Edgar, and Forrest top 5.

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