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bls1919
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I had Stout winning the last 2 rounds. Wiman kinda blew his wad in the 1st. Got dominated in the second. The third was a close rnd but Stout did more damage and even though Wiman got him down......he did nothing from top position to steal it at the end. It was very close. If Wiman could have kept the pace from the 1st into the second i dont think Stout could have coped but he kinda gassed.
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Post #16 4/19/09 9:15:12AM
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sparky
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I personally thought Wiman won rounds 1 and 3!!!!!!
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Post #17 4/19/09 9:47:43AM
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ajorton
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I had Wiman winning 1 and 3 an I will tell you why.
In Round 1 Wiman through more and connected with more punches and was the aggressor. He had 2 takedowns on Stout and went for countless submission attempts.
In 3 no arguing about it that it was Wiman. Wiman got 2 takedowns and controlled was controlling Stout the entire round. Round 2 was defo Stout.
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Post #18 4/19/09 10:27:32AM
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Franklinfan47
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 One of these threads has to show up after every event.
I though the fight could have easily gone either way imo, I thought for sure it was going to be a split decision. I agree the rounds 1 and 3 looked to me to be Wimans by a slight margin. I may be biased though because I picked Wiman.
Either way, it was a great fight 
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Post #19 4/19/09 11:21:10AM
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State_Champ
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I think if one is watching the fight and judging by the proper criteria maybe the outcome seems different than if one just watched the whole fight without analyzing it and simply took it all in.
I don't know for sure, but I have noticed a lot of people giving very specific reason for why Wiman should've won and I thought Stout won but I'm just saying that from watching the fight without really looking too far into it.
I still think Stout won the fight.
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Post #20 4/19/09 11:27:06AM
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P4P-Bettor
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I also had Wiman winning rounds 1 and 3 with Stout winning decisively in rnd 2. I honestly hought it might be scored as a split decision for Wiman though not unanimous for Stout.
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Post #21 4/19/09 1:08:35PM
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SociopathX
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I agree... I had it rounds 1 and 3 going to Wiman. and 2nd rd going to Stout.
FROM NOW ON ALL FIGHTS THAT GO TO A DECISION SHOULD IGNORE THE CRAP JUDGES AND BE BASED OFF OF A POLL THE AUDIENCE. similar to that from Who wants to be a millionare show.
Every audience member at the event should have a clicker at their seat and should pick who they thought won. It's the only fair way. Dana White should put this into effect immediatley as I think this would honestly be more fair.
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Post #22 4/19/09 1:30:15PM
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pdanke
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Posted by SociopathX
I think this would honestly be more fair.
Drunk people are always known for their fairness and their judgment.
If that was the case, GSP would have been voted in as UFC Middleweight champion.
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Post #23 4/19/09 1:55:25PM
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There were about 15 of us watching that fight...not one of us was pleased with the decision. Matt "Mountainman" Wiman won that fight.
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Post #24 4/19/09 2:31:57PM
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Thefridge1337
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Posted by SociopathX
I agree... I had it rounds 1 and 3 going to Wiman. and 2nd rd going to Stout.
FROM NOW ON ALL FIGHTS THAT GO TO A DECISION SHOULD IGNORE THE CRAP JUDGES AND BE BASED OFF OF A POLL THE AUDIENCE. similar to that from Who wants to be a millionare show.
Every audience member at the event should have a clicker at their seat and should pick who they thought won. It's the only fair way. Dana White should put this into effect immediatley as I think this would honestly be more fair.
if that was the case then the more popular fighter would always win not the actual winner of the fight
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Post #25 4/19/09 2:36:01PM
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I had Wiman winning rounds 1 and 3. Even though I picked Stout, I was pissed when I heard the decision. Wiman seems like one of the most commited guys in the sport at the moment, hes a totally differant fighter to the cocky guy who thought he could take anybody we saw vs Fisher and in TUF. I hope he gets straight back on the horse and picks up more wins soon.
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Post #26 4/19/09 2:37:35PM
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nickcuc547
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Posted by Tailgunner
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Dude, I don't what fight you were watching but Sam Stout kicked Wiman's ass, man.
Yep, Stout picked him apart on the feet and almost finished him with that body shot in the second. Wiman was pretty out of it at the end of the second round and kept staring at the clock praying for the round to end.
Other than a few loopy rights and a couple of takedowns Wiman didn't do much damage until the last minute in the 3rd.
ya in the second round all of this is true, but what about the first and third, definitely won by wiman, terrible decision i thought.
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Post #27 4/19/09 3:22:11PM
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theguido
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Posted by Pookie
I gave wiman the first round and the third, he was constantly active when he was grappling with him and i feel controlled far more of those rounds than stout did.
2nd was all stout though.
TRUE TRUE TRUE
I felt he stole the fight late in the 3rd
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Post #28 4/19/09 3:26:16PM
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I had it 29-28 Wiman. I thought Wiman landed more strikes and scored the take down in the first. The 2nd was all Stout and the 3rd was all Wiman.
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Post #29 4/19/09 3:32:25PM
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Tailgunner
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Posted by nickcuc547
Posted by Tailgunner
Posted by State_Champ
Dude, I don't what fight you were watching but Sam Stout kicked Wiman's ass, man.
Yep, Stout picked him apart on the feet and almost finished him with that body shot in the second. Wiman was pretty out of it at the end of the second round and kept staring at the clock praying for the round to end.
Other than a few loopy rights and a couple of takedowns Wiman didn't do much damage until the last minute in the 3rd.
ya in the second round all of this is true, but what about the first and third, definitely won by wiman, terrible decision i thought.
After watching it again you will see I posted that I felt Wiman actually won the 1st and 3rd rounds. Wiman was the agressor and had more takedowns and sub attempts. I said ignore the first post that you quoted.
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Post #30 4/19/09 5:07:03PM
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