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Petition: Knees to the head of a downed opponent

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Knees to the head of a downed opponent
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knees should be legal if a fighter is down on his knees, or one knee, must have both hands off the ground, and only knees to the forehead ,face and side of the head, seems like the safest way to me

Post #31   4/4/07 8:50:08PM   

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Posted by Cobbs666

knees should be legal if a fighter is down on his knees, or one knee, must have both hands off the ground, and only knees to the forehead ,face and side of the head, seems like the safest way to me



i agree. knees to the head cant be any more dangerous than an elbow. it would be up to the discression of the ref. just like elbows, not on the top or back of the head

Post #32   4/4/07 10:45:51PM   

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Small joint manipulation should be permitted again. If you can catch a guy trying to thumb you in the eye instead of punch you, you should be allowed to snap his ******* finger off.

Post #33   4/6/07 3:56:31AM   

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Posted by BadSanta

Small joint manipulation should be permitted again. If you can catch a guy trying to thumb you in the eye instead of punch you, you should be allowed to snap his ******* finger off.


I doubt that will happen. I think it would suck if someone just bent back all you fingers to be a prick. Not to mention the severity of it. Someone could literally make your fingers touch the back of your hand. That could mess up your ligaments permanently.

Post #34   4/6/07 1:38:43PM   

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Posted by BadSanta

Small joint manipulation should be permitted again. If you can catch a guy trying to thumb you in the eye instead of punch you, you should be allowed to snap his ******* finger off.



I had a traditional JJ teacher who spent a year on fingerlocks. Don't underestimate the ability of someone in a tight ground clinch fighting for position type situation (like if someone's trying to get you in a kimura, or you're tryin to roll for one yourself) you can really mess someone up w/ a finger lock. Also I think the gloves would interfere (the rule comes from before gloves were mandatory). I know a lot of wristlocks that are legal that can be used as counters to armbars and such that I think just wouldn't be effective with the gloves and that's why you don't see them used.

BTW, the poll is closed, but for those who haven't seen my posts in other forums... I'm all in favor of kness and kicks in any position.

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Post #35   4/8/07 6:29:11PM   

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I see your point for safty reasons.. but this is a FIGHT sport pople get hurt to take away a tool more over a "bread and butter" move set is taking away from the sport.

Post #36   4/8/07 11:20:26PM   

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I know we will probably never see one of the most devastaing moves in mma(soccer kick) here in the states, but the NSAC needs to allow knees on the ground. What other defense is there against a good double shot besides a sprawl. Rickson by sprawl..... sounds stoopid to me

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Does anyone think kness are worst than headbutts? I think both should be brought back. Knees are prob more important .

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I'm okay with knees to the head. I don't think soccer kicks or stomps should be allowed. Elbows and knees are enough.

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no head butts, no soccer kicks, no stomps.
elbows & definitely knees.
same rules apply. not to the top or back of the head. referes call

Post #40   4/9/07 9:42:02PM   

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After re-reading the 1st post I feel I should have been more clear about something... I feel it should be allowed in the quarter position only, not a northsouth mount...

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ok sure, i could see this being a better and more high action packed fight, but guys come on, if u bring knees back its just going to turn into a big street brawl, which is what Dana does not want at all. he ensures safety to all of the fighters, why do u think the rule was made. and plus, all of the fighters would get completely pissed and back out of fights that are madae against crazy ass people.

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Posted by u_f_c

ok sure, i could see this being a better and more high action packed fight, but guys come on, if u bring knees back its just going to turn into a big street brawl, which is what Dana does not want at all. he ensures safety to all of the fighters, why do u think the rule was made. and plus, all of the fighters would get completely pissed and back out of fights that are madae against crazy ass people.



what are you talking about? theres no street brawls in pride. and because of the knees a fighter cant just lay there and hold on or use his wrestling skills while the kickboxer cant use all of his tools

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I voted for knees on the ground. Fighters can't stall as much if people can knee each other on the ground. And it just gives you more options.

I hate soccer kicks and stomps. Just brutal. It doesn't take skill to stomp someone in the face, either. You can get good at it, but anyone can do it and KO somebody.

Post #44   4/10/07 6:00:58PM   

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Knees are needed in MMA.....otherwise it isn't fully MMA is it?

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