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Gonzaga VS. Carwin.....

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It kills me that this "easilly broken" label gets attached to Gonzaga. Against Couture--Randy landed an illegal headbutt that broke Gabriel's nose on a takedown, he also suffered a broken orbital bone and kept fighting. Against Werdum the second time around--again the knee strike towards the end landed right on the nose and broke it again. Then his hand got trapped against the side of the fence and he couldn't defend himself.

Both times they were serious nose breaks, and Gonzaga was basically choking on the blood until it completely gassed him. The guy has heart, and I hope everyone will see that when he lays it into Carwin.

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Post #16   2/27/09 3:00:23AM   

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Everyone should know GG fought not long after his son died(by not long I mean withing weeks), so he does have heart. I do think he could end up being broken mentally again though if he's pressured.

Post #17   2/27/09 3:14:18AM   

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Carwin is like 34 and hes never fought anyone good the best fighter he beat is Wellisch who is just a HW filler

Gonzaga should sub him in the first while their still dry

Post #18   2/27/09 7:00:45AM   

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I think Carwin will win, not becuse he's a better fighter per say but a bigger more well-rounded fighter, plus he has 5XL gloves

Post #19   2/27/09 8:44:12AM   

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Posted by copcopps

I think Carwin will win, not becuse he's a better fighter per say but a bigger more well-rounded fighter, plus he has 5XL gloves



Carwin is more well rounded that Gonzaga? I did not know this. However, if that's the case then I'll probably pick Gonzaga anyways because I think Gonzaga has more experience and has shown greater versatility.

Post #20   2/27/09 10:19:27AM   

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Ha as a wrestler myself my heart tells me that Carwin is gonna win. But as an all around MMA fan i say Gonzaga should win. So it comes down to who i think has more heart and that i give to Carwin so i have to go with him.

Post #21   2/27/09 12:09:43PM   

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this fight will be a great measuring stick to see how good Carwin really is... he may be too powerful for Gonzaga.

Post #22   2/27/09 12:49:18PM   

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GG wins this as long as he doesn't take a big shot to the face.

Carwin's cardio, ground game, and sub defense have never been tested.

With that said.. I'm putting money on Carwin pulling off the slight upset. TKO Rd1.

Post #23   2/27/09 1:15:17PM   

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If Gonzaga wouldn't have went fetal against Werdum, it'd make this pick a whole lot easier. Not sure if he just has a problem with Werdum, pressure being put on him, or just big fighters. He is a better striker than Carwin by far, but if Carwin closes the gap its all him. I see Gonzaga having to KO Carwin to win. If Carwin can clinch up he will take Gonzaga down. If he takes Gonzaga down he will rain down some punches and Gonzaga will likely curl up into a ball again.

Post #24   2/28/09 10:32:17AM   

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This should be FOTN. I have Carwin winning late by way of KO in a sluggfest. We will get to see what Shane's chin is made of. If he can take a lickin and keep on tickin it will be a long night for Gonzaga.

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Gonzaga because he is more technical and carwin won't be able to bully him. he will knock him out standing and submit him on the ground. I think he wins wherever this fight happens.

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I think a lot of people are selling Gonzaga short on this fight. Carwin hits hard but he also has an untested chin and Gonzaga also hits very hard. He's also a way better technical striker. He has better footwork and more tools on the feet. Gonzaga has also put on some muscle and paid extra attention to strength and conditioning since fighting Randy and Werdum. He's seen what his weaknesses are and addressed them.

That said, it is possible for Carwin to either catch Gonzaga with a big right hand or grind out a lay and pray. The former is more likely as I don't think Carwin is a match for Gonzaga on the ground.

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Carwin has fought nothing but cans up until this point, that's why he hasnt made it out of the first, you cant expect a can to be a match for his strength. If you look at his past opponents most of them have more losses than wins on their record.

Now he's facing a guy who nearly matches him in size, a true heavyweight and a much more well rounded fighter. Something tells me that Carwin is going to gas when GG makes it out of the first round.

Anyway, all of this reminds me of the hype that followed Houston Alexander, except I can see Carwin adapting and becoming a real force in the future after losing to Gonzaga. Too bad he isnt a little younger though.

Post #28   3/1/09 10:25:07AM   

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Carwin is a can crusher if you look at his record

his opponents records first to last outside UFC

1-4
4-2
1-3
0-1
13-12
1-1
6-1
11-12

hes 34 if you got 10 pro fights on your record and have never lost or been out of the first round your not fighting the right people

Post #29   3/3/09 4:15:42AM   

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But if you compare Carwin to the current UFC Champ.....

What you get is this...

Brock = 4XL gloves

Carwin = 5XL gloves

Brock = Division 1 national champ

Carwin = Division 2 national champ

Brocks record before the UFC 1-0 with one Finish

Carwins record before the UFC 8-0 with 8 Finishes all in the first round under the 3 minute mark, not to mention he found wins with KO's Subs and TKO's in those fights....

Brock is 6'2 and weighs about 270lbs

Carwin is 6'4 and weighs about 255lbs

Brock now has the Belt and Has beaten to legends in the sport, because of his size and wrestling Knowledge. people acclaim how could he could be or would be if he would have had a little whil longer to learn the ropes....

Well that could be IMO could be what we get out of Carwin !!

I want to take nothing away from Gonzaga, I am sure he has heart and talent and all the rest of the stuff stated in opinions above this post....

But we a have stated at one point in time how the Heavyweight class is lacking, and IMO this years will be the year that the new guys take this class to the next level...

And for that to happen Gonzaga really cannot win, WAR CARWIN

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