The Offense of ‘Intelligent Defense’ |
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MODulation
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It didn't deserve a MacArthur fellowship, but I don't see anything defensively dull or dimwitted about Josh Koscheck turning his hips and extending his arm to shield Paulo Thiago from pouncing on him Saturday at UFC 95.
Brian Cobb butt scooting and attempting a weak double-leg doesn't warrant a Nobel Prize in defense either, but I would hardly call it brainless or idiotic.
Unfortunately, it seems they still weren't "intelligent" enough.
Let me be clear about what this is, or more pertinently, what it isn't. This is not an assertion that any of the evening's contentious proceedings would've wound up with a different victor if allowed to continue. This is not a criticism of any of the stoppages at UFC 95, nor is it an indictment of officials Dan Miragliotta, Kevin Mulhall, Leon Roberts and Marc Goddard.
In fact, given the current climate of refereeing in MMA, all of the event's referees did their jobs to the letter and their stoppages were just.
Instead, this is an inquiry into whether the refereeing standards in MMA are appropriate. UFC 95 was not an assortment of irresponsible stoppages but an illustration of the intensifying issue of what constitutes a justifiable end to a fight, as the margin between winning and losing in MMA has become hideously deformed.link
Great editorial by Jordan Breen
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Post #1 2/22/09 7:07:11PM
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Wolfenstein
Heavyweight Champ
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There's so much controversy in every UFC event regarding stoppages. I can't remember the last time I've seen an event that didn't at least have a debatable stoppage. I'm not really sure what can be done to remedy the situation, but hopefully some MMA braniacs can come up with a few ideas.
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Post #2 2/22/09 7:15:50PM
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lohmann
A Black Belt in Jiu-Jitsu
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Read this earlier and basically agreed the entire way through. The stoppages last night, in an analogy, would be akin to Demian Maia slapping on a submission and the referee calling the fight before his opponent passed out or tapped. A knockdown isn't a knockout.
Never saw a Sherdog editorial take on such a thoroughly angry tone. Usually it's anger with a touch of sarcasm to lighten the message up.
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Post #3 2/22/09 7:17:33PM
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Twenty20Dollars
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Posted by Wolfenstein
There's so much controversy in every UFC event regarding stoppages. I can't remember the last time I've seen an event that didn't at least have a debatable stoppage.
UFC 94
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Post #4 2/22/09 7:18:42PM
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The-Don
Belt Contender
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I gotta say.. excellent article.. This is something that refs should come to under stand.. an extra punch or two is not going to be that bad in the long scheme of things.. now if a fighter is out cold that's a different story..
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Post #5 2/22/09 7:21:24PM
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The-Don
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Posted by lohmann
Read this earlier and basically agreed the entire way through. The stoppages last night, in an analogy, would be akin to Demian Maia slapping on a submission and the referee calling the fight before his opponent passed out or tapped. A knockdown isn't a knockout.
Never saw a Sherdog editorial take on such a thoroughly angry tone. Usually it's anger with a touch of sarcasm to lighten the message up.
I did not think the article seemed angry at all.. I thought it was more direct and straight forward.
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Post #6 2/22/09 7:24:07PM
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EvenFlow
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Posted by Twenty20Dollars
Posted by Wolfenstein
There's so much controversy in every UFC event regarding stoppages. I can't remember the last time I've seen an event that didn't at least have a debatable stoppage.
UFC 94
Grease Gate 
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Post #7 2/22/09 9:10:46PM
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Posted by EvenFlow
Posted by Twenty20Dollars
Posted by Wolfenstein
There's so much controversy in every UFC event regarding stoppages. I can't remember the last time I've seen an event that didn't at least have a debatable stoppage.
UFC 94
Grease Gate
The only reason ufc 94 didnt have any controversy regarding stoppage, was because the ref only stepped in to stop it once the whole night.
There were however many controversial decisions that night.
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Post #8 2/22/09 9:50:37PM
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WheelchairBandit
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Fans find something to bitch about after every card,no matter what.After UFC 93 it was the Franklin/Hendo decision.After UFC 94 it was Grease Gate.After UFN 17 it was Josh Neer's behavior and the Grice-Veach stoppage.Now it's the Kos stoppage.Next week it will be something that happens at the WEC and after that whatever happens at UFC 96 and so forth and so on.
No matter what,the hardcore's will always find something to complain about.
WB.
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Post #9 2/22/09 10:08:50PM
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Twenty20Dollars
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there were no debatable stoppage's at ufc 94 but debatable issues like the judging and gsp/bj grease. But im pretty sure silva/machida wasnt debatable and I picked silva.
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Post #10 2/22/09 11:01:59PM
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R-Bandd
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Great read, thanks
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Post #11 2/23/09 10:49:45AM
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