UFC HAS NEW RULES FOR CUTMEN AND CORNERS |
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mentalcase
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Following a week of controversy after the Georges St. Pierre and B.J. Penn fight in which Vaseline was applied to the Canadian by one of his cornermen in between rounds, the UFC has instituted new policies regarding cut men and how the corners are allowed to enter during the breaks in between rounds for this weekend's Fight Night show in Tampa, Fla.
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Post #1 2/6/09 10:15:24PM
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RMFG_187
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okay this is way outta proportion. I understand if the statements are true, that he should be punished, even fined/suspended.
but come on guys, a lot of you are acting like Vaseline and Vaseline alone wins championships. And now when BJ says it, a long list of people who have lost to GSP are sayin it too. I dunno but sounds like everyone is overplaying this, but if it is true I do agree punishment is needed, and I guess these new rules are warranted.
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Post #2 2/6/09 10:24:22PM
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kris_ericson
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thats kinda rediculous if you ask me
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Post #3 2/6/09 10:25:05PM
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postman
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 dont most guys get there face greased between rounds reguard less?
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Post #4 2/6/09 10:25:22PM
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Styles
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That is pretty harsh... its simple though, make vaseline the final thing done in the corner. Once the vaseline is pulled out, it only get applied to the face and afterwards, the fighter is ready for the next round to begin. If anyone touches the fighter after the vaseline has been applied, give a warning or take a point. The cutman then discard the gloves to insure no vaseline is remaining on them after the next round.
Sounds simple yet very effective, so why can't anyone come up with an idea like this.
It would suck if the trainer/coach and cutman cant be in there at the same time... sure the trainer/couch can direct their fighter from outside the cage, but its just not the same as the trainer/couch being right there in the fighters face eye-2-eye...
Last edited 2/6/09 10:35PM by styles
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Post #5 2/6/09 10:33:23PM
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The Original Playground Bully
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I don't think it's rediculous at all. It's a very reasonible measure of prevention. I'm actually suprised that this sort of thing hasn't come to light much earlier in the developement of the sport. I think that the only reason this has been such a polarizing issue is because of the spotlight that fight was under. Had this happened in a lesser-known fight I don't think people would give it another thought.
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Post #6 2/7/09 1:29:51AM
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chitownsfinest15
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I think this is sort of necessary...at least when something goes wrong right away the UFC will fix it...
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Post #7 2/7/09 1:44:04AM
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roadking95th
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Well, before this gets locked....
This seems like a good rule. I am not sure if the article means the UFC supplies the cutmen, or if someone for each fighter is designated as the cutman. I would prefer the latter. If the UFC is supplying the cutman too, I think the fighters should still be allowed two of their guys in the corner.
Simply, if you are the cutman, you can only touch the face period. This makes it easier to police and gets rid of all this nonsense.
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Post #8 2/7/09 11:58:02AM
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RampageOwnedYou
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I think only allowing one person in the corner at a time is a bit much. They could've allowed two. But it does makes it a lot easier for the AC's to pay attention with only one cornerman.
Why is the UFC making the rules? These AC's are pretty incompetent.
What other sport can makes it own rules without consulting an Athletic commission, or regulatory board? Am I the only one who finds this strange?
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Post #9 2/7/09 1:32:22PM
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mictlantechutli
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Posted by RampageOwnedYou
I think only allowing one person in the corner at a time is a bit much. They could've allowed two. But it does makes it a lot easier for the AC's to pay attention with only one cornerman.
Why is the UFC making the rules? These AC's are pretty incompetent.
What other sport can makes it own rules without consulting an Athletic commission, or regulatory board? Am I the only one who finds this strange?
The article says that two people can enter the cage in between rounds. And I think this is an effective way to deal with the situation. I'm glad the UFC took matters into their own hands and didn't wait for the AC's to "investigate". Problem solved in my mind and I'm moving on.
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Post #10 2/7/09 1:50:30PM
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EliasG
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Dana and the UFC knows this is a BIG problem and they are trying to pre empt it and focus on just the cornermen. Smart. I think this elucidates, however, that it's not a "little thing."
Every legitimate sport has to be vigilent about enforcing its rules. UFC is positioning itself as a top mainstream sport. Most Leagues have rules commissions that work very hard to protect their sports' integrity. Athletic Commissions are there to protect the integrity of sports but they ought not be the sole deciders of rules--they are the last legal resorts and watchdogs not the first responders.
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Post #11 2/7/09 3:51:06PM
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bls1919
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I dont have a problem with thte rule at all. There should only be one guy talking in the corner anyways. Too many guys = too much confusion and loss of focus.(for the fighter)
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Post #12 2/7/09 7:30:28PM
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EliasG
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i know. I always think it's wierd when 5 guys are yelling different instructions at the same time to their fighter. Hard to have clarity with all that. 1 guy comes in, tells him what's up, bam. Ain't no different than sparring in the gym, water, mouthpiece, advice--get back out their and fight. Ain't complicated. Cutman is different though.
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Post #13 2/8/09 1:48:09AM
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casey64
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Outrageous, what an outrage this has become.
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Post #14 2/8/09 2:54:40PM
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