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the report was that it was all over his back like i said it depends on what is true.

Could this have effected the outcome absoulty, did it....i dont think so the fight went pretty much how i expected GSP dominating GNP win.

not excuses for me just facts.

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BJ Gassed. Everybody said he wouldn't cause his training was so much better but the truth is He Gassed. Now BJ and all of the people hanging from his nuts are trying to make excuses so that there can be a rematch.

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He did gas but not from lack of conditioning it was from getting his arse whip. Take that many punches and lay on your back trying to defend postion that ling eating all the elbows, hammer fists, and punches and anyone would have gassed.

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here we go, without the vaseline Bj wouldn't have been outstriked !!

Without the vaseline BJ would have been 10 time faster than GSP !! LOL

Without the vaseline BJ wouldn't have been in the dead cross eating elbows and punches !!

Without the vaseline BJ wouldn't have been completely gassed and not knowing where he was !!

Without the vaseline GSP wouldn't have never pass the so great guard of BJ !! lol


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Posted by tmas

He did gas but not from lack of conditioning it was from getting his arse whip. Take that many punches and lay on your back trying to defend postion that ling eating all the elbows, hammer fists, and punches and anyone would have gassed.



LOL !! he DID gas but NOT from lack of conditioning !!

watch the fight again man, BJ was gassed after rd 1 !!! lol



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if vaseline accounted for penn's lack of conditioning for this fight i would say it's a problem(just saying it was obvious), but either way he was in over his head. hopefully penn stays in his division and racks up some wins.

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WAR GSP!!!! Fedor who? He would smoke him too.

BJ was eating so many elbows, punches, and hammerfists to the face, top of the head, back of the head, and neck it wasn't even funny.

I wish I was paying attention more between rounds, I totally missed the whole vaseline incident. Why would cornerman EVEN think he could just rub a little left over vaseline in?

OK end sarcasm.

I think this fight confirmed what most of us knew, but also what some of us, me included, hoped wouldn't happen.

I'll move GSP up my p4p rankings, but ahead of Fedor? You got to be kidding.

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maybe i am wrong and correct me if i am. how does vasoline affect how easy it was for GSP to pass the guard. isnt that mostly to do with legs? I dont think BJ had enough gas in his legs to prevent GSP from moving to side control, where he did the most damage.

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even if they covered his body with vaseline, gsp beat his ass...makes bj just look like a punani

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i'm sure the vaseline on his back helped gsp pass a world champs guard at will, ridiculous, this was a fitch like beating.

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I am just glad GSP shut Penn's mouth...

I love it when fighters say they want to "kill" someone and Penn has always been classic for doing that....

There was nothing greater than watching GSP punch the hell out of Penn's face...It was great!

Penn in his Prime is still no match for GSP in his Prime....

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Penn should of been wearing a pair of those cheater pants. Anybody got Aoki's number. How about you JJFreak? j/k, well kind of anyway.

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While not as blatant as say Yoshihiro Akiyama applying cream to his legs to make himself slippery against Sakuraba, it's a similar case. I think there's some definete legitimacy to BJ's claims. I don't think the fight would have gone any differently, as GSP was dominating up until that point. It's still a big deal, and it was obviously a big deal to the NSAC. Like many have said, vaseline isn't something you can just wipe off with a towel.

In boxing they use vaseline on the back to keep abrasions from the ring ropes from occuring, but in MMA none is allowed to be used on the body--period. I could easilly see this getting overturned, which would be a shame because GSP won vaseline or not.

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White added that "some Vaseline on a guy's back didn't change the outcome of that fight


How does he know that? He wasn't in the ring fighting GSP going for triangles and submissions. That's easy to say while sitting on the sidelines.

I am sure that GSPs corner knew that GSPs only danger would be the triangle, and they didn't "accidentally" put vaseline on his back and shoulders. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing.


So the patriots cheated by spying on on other teams via cameras and audio, so only the person holding the camera shoudl be considered a cheater? So the end result of winning games that they wouldn't have otherwise won should still count as a win because only one guy was holding the camera?

Rediculous, and the same applies here, if one guy on the whole team cheats, they are all cheaters, without question, regardless of which team member cheated, they all benefited from in via the win.

That fight result needs to be voided, and a message sent to other camps that those tactics wont be tolerated. Anything less would be sending a message that it is okay to grease your fighter between rounds.

What a disappointment that they felt the need to cheat to the point that it was so obvious that the atheletic commision was aware of their tactics.

and I dont buy that "he didnt know he had vaseline on his hands." Once maybe, but twice? No accident and if you believe it was I have a bridge to sell you in San Fran!!!!!!!

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