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During Saturday’s UFC 94 main event that featured UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre defending his title against UFC lightweight champion B.J. Penn, Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer could be seen entering the cage between rounds.

Kizer approached the corner for St. Pierre and the two parties exchanged words. At the time, the nature of the conversation was unclear but the blog CagePotato.com is now reporting that Penn’s camp has filed a formal complaint with NSAC.

According to Cage Potato, Penn’s camp has accused one of St. Pierre’s cornermen of applying Vaseline to St. Pierre’s back between rounds. It’s an accusation that was supported by UFC President Dana White during the event’s post-fight press conference.



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Post #1   2/1/09 9:43:12AM   

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I thought this was all sorted?! Didn't they accidently wipe some on the top of his shoulders and wipe it off with a towel and have it checked by a official before the round was started again.
I think BJ's just grasping at straws trying to make his one sided loss look a little more respectable after all the sh*t he was talking again.

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Well if it was between round one and two that is when GSP started to dominate. Not saying it would have changed the fight but you never know.

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Dude, if that's true and the cornerman gets in trouble but GSP gets something minor I'll be pissed, that's the same as roids in my book regardless of whether the outcome would've been different.

That would just go to show that a winning cheater is much less a cheater than a losing cheater, bull. If GSP gets off for being the promotional goldenboy then there should be some hell raised.

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Ok, I know BJ fans are looking for the smallest of excuses but please. The vasline was wiped off just as the cornorman put it on. Gsp had nothing to do with it either. Bj still would have lost as his face was crushed by elbows and punches.

Go ahead BJ. Rule it a NC. GSP will surely kick your ass and his nut hugging fans again. As you can obviously see im enjoying the moment of being 100% on Machida and GSP.

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Posted by seanfu

Dude, if that's true and the cornerman gets in trouble but GSP gets something minor I'll be pissed, that's the same as roids in my book regardless of whether the outcome would've been different.

That would just go to show that a winning cheater is much less a cheater than a losing cheater, bull. If GSP gets off for being the promotional goldenboy then there should be some hell raised.



How is it the same as using steroids?!
It was a tiny amount of vasaline left over from wiping it on his face and they had already started wiping it off as the official jumped up. They apologized and the vasaline was kicked out the cage! Other than the tiny amount which was wiped off with a towel GSP still dominated round 2 had the minute rest vasaline free, dominated round 3 had the minute rest vasaline free again an then dominated all of round 4 vasaline free once again!
Saying a man is as bad as a cheat as someone who used steroids because one of his cornermen accidently wiped a little vasaline on the top of his shoulders is a joke!
GSP has never been accused of cheating before and I seriously doubt he ever will again. Promotional golden boy or not he is still a brutally honest fighter an saying its the same as him using steroids is a joke! I hope you realize what you're saying in your post!

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Posted by seanfu

Dude, if that's true and the cornerman gets in trouble but GSP gets something minor I'll be pissed, that's the same as roids in my book regardless of whether the outcome would've been different.

That would just go to show that a winning cheater is much less a cheater than a losing cheater, bull. If GSP gets off for being the promotional goldenboy then there should be some hell raised.



How is it the same as using steroids?!
It was a tiny amount of vasaline left over from wiping it on his face and they had already started wiping it off as the official jumped up. They apologized and the vasaline was kicked out the cage! Other than the tiny amount which was wiped off with a towel GSP still dominated round 2 had the minute rest vasaline free, dominated round 3 had the minute rest vasaline free again an then dominated all of round 4 vasaline free once again!
Saying a man is as bad as a cheat as someone who used steroids because one of his cornermen accidently wiped a little vasaline on the top of his shoulders is a joke!
GSP has never been accused of cheating before and I seriously doubt he ever will again. Promotional golden boy or not he is still a brutally honest fighter an saying its the same as him using steroids is a joke! I hope you realize what you're saying in your post!



If it's like explained, not the small amount on the shoulders. If it was the entire back then that's a big deal, if not, then it's not.

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Posted by seanfu


Posted by SmileR


Posted by seanfu

Dude, if that's true and the cornerman gets in trouble but GSP gets something minor I'll be pissed, that's the same as roids in my book regardless of whether the outcome would've been different.

That would just go to show that a winning cheater is much less a cheater than a losing cheater, bull. If GSP gets off for being the promotional goldenboy then there should be some hell raised.



How is it the same as using steroids?!
It was a tiny amount of vasaline left over from wiping it on his face and they had already started wiping it off as the official jumped up. They apologized and the vasaline was kicked out the cage! Other than the tiny amount which was wiped off with a towel GSP still dominated round 2 had the minute rest vasaline free, dominated round 3 had the minute rest vasaline free again an then dominated all of round 4 vasaline free once again!
Saying a man is as bad as a cheat as someone who used steroids because one of his cornermen accidently wiped a little vasaline on the top of his shoulders is a joke!
GSP has never been accused of cheating before and I seriously doubt he ever will again. Promotional golden boy or not he is still a brutally honest fighter an saying its the same as him using steroids is a joke! I hope you realize what you're saying in your post!



If it's like explained, not the small amount on the shoulders. If it was the entire back then that's a big deal, if not, then it's not.



According to the radio it was left over from the face an no extra vasaline was taken out. Also I don't see how its GSP's fault if one of his cornermen rubs vasaline into his back. He can't see it and I doubt he would have stood there an knowing cheated!

Saying he is as bad as someone who used steroids is out of order especially when saying it about a man who has never done anything even close to cheating in his whole career.

If it turns out it was part of the game plan then thats fair enough and GSP and the whole of his team should be punished but according to what I heard it was unintentional and was wiped off to a standard where the commission where happy to let the fight continue. I really don't see how it is a issue if the commission were in the cage and checked it out before the fight continued.

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Who cares....Penn got killed and it was beautiful!!!

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What a joke, BJ got completely destroyed, he didn.t fall short on point because of multiple failed sub dud to Vaseline !!

He didn't even know where he was after rd 3, hesitating between just being hit by a truck or literally in hell !!

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First off Vaseline isn't going to just "go away". It is petroleum based...you need alcohol and/or soap to "cut it". If GSP had a glob on his back you can bet his back was extra slippery the whole entire fight.
If GSP has a good amount on his back...then BJ eventually got it all over his hands....making it even harder to grab.
I don't think the outcome would have been much different...you have to ask though...if BJ could have gotten away from GSP's Greco/Roman holds much easier...would he have tired out so soon? GSP's wrestling is what tired BJ out.
He was either pressed into the cage or trapped on his back.
If there was a substantial amount on GSP...maybe a NC is in order.
I like BJ...but I just think he is grasping for a NC. BJ hates to lose. It eats him up.
As for the steroid comparison....they both are a "no no" that can help you win...thus they are comparable.

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Posted by Sir_Karl

First off Vaseline isn't going to just "go away". It is petroleum based...you need alcohol and/or soap to "cut it". If GSP had a glob on his back you can bet his back was extra slippery the whole entire fight.
If GSP has a good amount on his back...then BJ eventually got it all over his hands....making it even harder to grab.
I don't think the outcome would have been much different...you have to ask though...if BJ could have gotten away from GSP's Greco/Roman holds much easier...would he have tired out so soon? GSP's wrestling is what tired BJ out.
He was either pressed into the cage or trapped on his back.
If there was a substantial amount on GSP...maybe a NC is in order.
I like BJ...but I just think he is grasping for a NC. BJ hates to lose. It eats him up.
As for the steroid comparison....they both are a "no no" that can help you win...thus they are comparable.




I was waiting for a BJ nuthugger to find an excuse for BJ losing.

You don't have to ask the question bro, BJ was killed and not because of vaseline......

GEEZ people! BJ is a great LW, but doesn't touch GSP as a fight. Lost to him once and now again, and this time was smoked...Stop holding his nuts so tight!

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to those of you who dont fight and do not understand how huge of a deal this is its huge!.

This has possible complications here is how. GSP dominated with GNP mainly because BJ could not control his posture after the 2nd round i believe. Even if the vas was wiped off you cant get it all and it goes into the skin/pores quickly espically on a sweaty body.

BJ could not work submissions, he couldnt control GSP because of how easly he slipped off, also GSP was able to just pass very easly that also plays a major role in this, shoulders, and back being vassed up make it very easy for the fighter on top to pass, it makes the fighter on bottom have very little to control with, in order to properly control someone on the ground you need underhooks with the arms, and leg control.

IF this turns out to be true/problem we could see 4-8month suspensions for GSP and his cornermen.

No excusses im a huge fan of BJ and of GSP BJ got destroyed wasnt even close.....but that could have played a role if true and a bigger role then all you think do me a favor go run for 10 min, get sweaty rub vas on wipe it off and grapple with someone you will see.

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but what about the vasolins penn touched last year there for gsp couldnt touch him there for penns the cheater.


that makes about as much sence as the rest of this. i mean come one the man won fair and square period, get over it

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This is just crazy and pathetic! It was a little left over from his face that they wiped on a shoulder. It was imediately wiped off the shoulder. In my eyes no bid deal. It wasn't like it was all over his back or something.

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