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ronco_loid
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I agree with you wink.
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Post #46 4/9/07 11:53:26PM
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Nacho
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Posted by ronco_loid
I agree with you wink.
Don't use your finishing move Sub Z 
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Post #47 4/10/07 1:03:28AM
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40ouncetofreedom
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Posted by Rush
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Okay, apparently I still need to educate some people around here... 
GSP turns 26 years old in about a month. He's 13-2 overall, 7-2 in the UFC, and has already won a title fight, in convincing fashion.
He thoroughly dominated a couple of excellent fighters, and has gone toe-to-toe with two guys considered to be among the best ever, and defeated both of them.
GSP was never fed a "can" by the UFC, to generate hype and build him up for a title fight. His UFC debut was against Karo Parisyan, who was 10-2, and had already won a UFC fight, a convincing 1st-rnd submission of Dave Strasser. If anything, GSP was being fed to Parisyan, to build him up for a title shot.
Some statistics:
- Coming into fights against GSP, his opponents had a collective professional record of 172-40-6, for an .811 winning percentage.
- Including fights against GSP and all subsequent fights, GSP's opponents have a collective, career pro record of 249-77-6, a .764 winning percentage.
- GSP's UFC opponents have a combined record of 39-12-1 in the UFC, not including their matches against GSP himself (a .765 winning percentage).
(Note that I counted Matt Hughes's record - his only repeat opponent - only once for each of the above calculations. Winning percentages only account for Wins and Losses and do not include Draws.)
When Matt Hughes was 26, he was 8-1 and had just made his UFC debut, with a Decision win over the might Valeri Ignatov. He was 23 fights away from winning his first UFC title fight. (Incidentally, Hughes had 10 fights in 2000 and 9 in 2001 - that's insane.)
When Chuck Liddell was 26, he was 3 years away from making his professional debut. Maybe he was still in college, I have no idea.
When Rich Franklin was 26, he was teaching a high school math class.
When Fedor Emelianenko was 26, he was 10-1 and had just made his Pride FC debut, with a Decision win over the mighty Semmy Schilt.
When Sean Sherk was 26, he was 2-0 and was more than a year from making his UFC debut.
When Anderson Silva was 26, he was 4-1 and was about a year away from making his Pride FC debut.
That's what I call a GSP beatdown.
ronco = OWNED
wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..
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Post #48 4/20/07 3:10:21PM
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p_unit23
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GSP ALL THE WAY!!! 
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Post #49 4/20/07 4:24:35PM
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Rush
Laying down the beats
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Since I don't want to reply to ALL the threads about the GSP Serra fight I'll just spill the beans here.
I just got back from a GSP seminar and he gave us the scoop on why he lost.
1. He did not slip in his fight
2. He did not tap in his fight - he said he was dazed from strikes
3. He feels he lost to Serra because he only trained 2 weeks prior to this fight (because of his knee injury). He felt he over trained during those 2 weeks and didn't feel relaxed. He didn't feel relaxed physically (due to over training) and he wasn't relaxed mentally (he didn't feel that he was properly prepared for the fight)
4. He doesn't know who he is fighting next.
There you have it. So unless he lied, there's the scoop.
BTW, the seminar was pretty good for 100$
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Post #50 4/22/07 7:17:21PM
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AchillesHeel
Heavyweight Champ
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Posted by 40ouncetofreedom
wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..
Passive-aggressive homophobia, anti-intellectualism, ignorance, and mild anti-social personality disorder, all in one neat post. Well done. Your parents must be proud.
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Post #51 4/23/07 12:07:37PM
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AchillesHeel
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 594-345
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: In the cheap seats.
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Posted by Rush
Since I don't want to reply to ALL the threads about the GSP Serra fight I'll just spill the beans here.
I just got back from a GSP seminar and he gave us the scoop on why he lost.
1. He did not slip in his fight
2. He did not tap in his fight - he said he was dazed from strikes
3. He feels he lost to Serra because he only trained 2 weeks prior to this fight (because of his knee injury). He felt he over trained during those 2 weeks and didn't feel relaxed. He didn't feel relaxed physically (due to over training) and he wasn't relaxed mentally (he didn't feel that he was properly prepared for the fight)
4. He doesn't know who he is fighting next.
There you have it. So unless he lied, there's the scoop.
BTW, the seminar was pretty good for 100$
I don't have it now, but I read a quote from one of Serra's trainers that the extra time due to GSP's injury really helped Serra. He said that Serra really "turned a corner" in his boxing. Not so much in his technique or anything physical, but in his mental ability to feel confident in his standup game. Serra himself mentioned in the post-fight interview that he had to remind himself not to fall back on his jiu-jitsu training and follow GSP to the ground after knocking him down. Instead, he was able to keep his composure and pursue the knockout.
GSP's admission that he didn't slip is just more reason to like him, imho. He's a classy guy, willing to admit that he just got whupped by a guy who was better prepared and the better fighter on the night.
The talk of the town, so to speak, is that GSP may square off with Koscheck. I could watch that.
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Post #52 4/23/07 12:23:40PM
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Rush
Laying down the beats
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I forgot to add that he did say that the punch that hit him on the back of the head (behind the ear) really dazed him.
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Post #53 4/23/07 1:08:43PM
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pv3Hpv3p
Heavyweight Champ
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Posted by AchillesHeel
Posted by 40ouncetofreedom
wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..
Passive-aggressive homophobia, anti-intellectualism, ignorance, and mild anti-social personality disorder, all in one neat post. Well done. Your parents must be proud.
Damn, Achilles, I will dub that the most visious Fruedian-owning of the month...lol... Ouch 
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Post #54 4/23/07 2:57:03PM
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Rush
Laying down the beats
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Posted by AchillesHeel
The talk of the town, so to speak, is that GSP may square off with Koscheck. I could watch that.
Georges joked in saying that most of the time he finds out who his next opponent will be via the internet.
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Post #55 4/23/07 3:14:09PM
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AchillesHeel
Heavyweight Champ
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Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Damn, Achilles, I will dub that the most visious Fruedian-owning of the month...lol... Ouch
Heh. Too harsh? I hadn't eaten lunch yet.
Posted by Rush
Georges joked in saying that most of the time he finds out who his next opponent will be via the internet.
That might be a fun gimmick, actually, if Dana White ever runs out of crazy ideas: Get some fighters to agree to a "mystery card" and then let the fans vote for the matchups on the web site.
Anyway, I'd like to see GSP get right back in the saddle with a "real" opponent, instead of being fed some UFC newbie he's supposed to beat. [EDIT: That is, I think Kos would be a challenge, and not a "can."]
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Post #56 4/23/07 3:21:40PM
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Rush
Laying down the beats
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Please don't give Dana any more crazy ideas. 
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Post #57 4/23/07 3:46:07PM
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40ouncetofreedom
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Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Posted by AchillesHeel
Posted by 40ouncetofreedom
wow.thats alot of statistics and Knowledge...ive came to the conclusion that NO MAN..should ever know that much about DUDES...unless you love the dudes...you can quote and say your statistics but all it takes is 1 punch and anyone can beat anyone...so statistics and all these facts and stuff really dont mean crap...i think you have way too much time on your hands...maybe u should get a girlfriend or a pet..
Passive-aggressive homophobia, anti-intellectualism, ignorance, and mild anti-social personality disorder, all in one neat post. Well done. Your parents must be proud.
Damn, Achilles, I will dub that the most visious Fruedian-owning of the month...lol... Ouch
Me owned...haha yeah...thatll be the day...this guy has Bas Rutten for his avatar and comes on here spewing all these facts like he is Bas Rutten or an MMA GURU.Im just making a point...that you got way too much time on your hands to take this stuff so seriously..and OH MY GOD I GOT OWNED A MESSAGE BOARD..ILL NEVER SHOW MY FACE AGAIN..HAHAHA...IM SOO ASHAMED SOME GUY ON THE MESSAGE BOARD OWNED ME..what do you consider owning...maybe i am homophobic...maybe im not intellectual...but point in case..your ramblings on here with at stats and stuff...really dont mean anything.now your diagnosing me in your last thread..good job DR Phil...your parents must be proud.
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Post #58 4/23/07 8:23:04PM
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russ_95670
Learning to Sprawl
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GSP is WAY overrated!!!!!!!!!! the guy cant even defend his title once successfully and just because he throws some wild kicks and punches everyone loves him. hughes is a dick but hes better than GSP and hughes will make him tap if they meet again.
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Post #59 4/25/07 2:09:30AM
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Northrend
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Posted by russ_95670
GSP is WAY overrated!!!!!!!!!! the guy cant even defend his title once successfully and just because he throws some wild kicks and punches everyone loves him. hughes is a dick but hes better than GSP and hughes will make him tap if they meet again.
Last time I watched the GSP-Hughes fight GSP DESTROYED HIM. PURE DOMINATION. If anything GSP will make Hughes tap like BJ did. That is if he can get past Serra which I doubt (Hughes that is)
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