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bls1919
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I believe he tapped. All this win does is get CB's head a bit bigger. Can't wait until he fights somone that won't fold like a papper doll when they miss a sub. I think he will fail miserably against tough competition. His Stand up is shaky at best and his wrestling doesnt even look that good. And thats suppposed to be his bread and butter.
Last edited 1/4/09 9:30AM by bls1919
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Post #16 1/4/09 9:28:33AM
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ohiostate1016
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Posted by bls1919
I believe he tapped. All this win does is get CB's head a bit bigger. Can't wait until he fights somone that won't fold like a papper doll when they miss a sub. I think he will fail miserably against tough competition. His Stand up is shaky at best and his wrestling doesnt even look that good. And thats suppposed to be his bread and butter.
Man, I was going to say this almost verbatim.
I used to like CB before I saw him on TUF. I'm glad that he lost to Amir twice in a row, because fighters that can't learn from their mistakes can't grow as fighters. And the worst part is that CB obviously STILL hasn't learned from his two mistakes against Amir, because he almost got caught AGAIN while trying to work ground and pound.
His wrestling IS very suspect, and I don't think that he's adapted it to MMA in a way that will make his wrestling a strong point. He needs to use it to fend off subs on the ground while he's using his gnp, but he obviously hasn't figured that part out yet.
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Post #17 1/4/09 10:22:33PM
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Posted by ohiostate1016
Posted by bls1919
I believe he tapped. All this win does is get CB's head a bit bigger. Can't wait until he fights somone that won't fold like a papper doll when they miss a sub. I think he will fail miserably against tough competition. His Stand up is shaky at best and his wrestling doesnt even look that good. And thats suppposed to be his bread and butter.
Man, I was going to say this almost verbatim.
I used to like CB before I saw him on TUF. I'm glad that he lost to Amir twice in a row, because fighters that can't learn from their mistakes can't grow as fighters. And the worst part is that CB obviously STILL hasn't learned from his two mistakes against Amir, because he almost got caught AGAIN while trying to work ground and pound.
His wrestling IS very suspect, and I don't think that he's adapted it to MMA in a way that will make his wrestling a strong point. He needs to use it to fend off subs on the ground while he's using his gnp, but he obviously hasn't figured that part out yet.
couldn't disagree more, because the guy lost two by the same move in a row he isn't growing, he's won two straight and finished them both, and neither guy is a tomato can. and cb almost got caught in a sub this time because he got rocked, not because he was reckless in his ground work, in fact once he got out of the choke he schooled him on the ground, quickly moved to mount and pounded him out. the guy still has a long way to go, don't get me wrong, but ripping this guy is completely unjustified.
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Post #18 1/4/09 10:43:56PM
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I forget where I read this, but when reading about some other refereeing issue, I found a rule saying a "tap out" is three taps in one second, which makes perfect sense. If you really want out, you're not going to tap twice and stop, and with a choke, I think there should be be a bit of leeway, as you're not going to end your career in a choke, whereas an armbar or leg lock might be a different story.
The ref missed it, Massenzio didn't let up and its water under the bridge.
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Post #19 1/4/09 11:45:30PM
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He tapped, same thing with the Amir fight he feels pain so he taps real quick but then tries to say he didn't. Quite frankly this is starting to get annoying but what else is new it's CB.
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Post #20 1/5/09 7:31:13AM
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Posted by Bobby-B-Bonkers
and i say CB is the man, in a few yrs I want to see a third rematch of CB and Amir, I like them both and really enjoy watching their battles
they werent really battles were they 
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Post #21 1/5/09 8:10:35AM
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you have to tap 3 times for it to be a tap out (as svatorm said here and i said in the other thread) so it wasn't a tap. was it a fake tap? possibly, a fake tap is an effective strategy. all i know is that it wasn't 3 taps, CB didn't look like he wanted to give in and Massenzio didn't loosen the hold. therefore, he didn't tap imo.
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Post #22 1/5/09 2:17:49PM
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BrutalKnockOut
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I'm with Massenzio on this one, I thought he tapped as well.
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Post #23 1/5/09 4:24:59PM
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I thought is instinct was to tap because that was pretty tight but then he moved his hips and thought better of it. It released a little pressure...but yeah he was struggling...did you see the oxygen depravation as his head/neck/shoulders all flushed red. He was working it. Props to him for getting out and "lucky' for him the ref didn't catch his tap. It's all good though because he merked him when he got out.
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Post #24 1/5/09 6:42:36PM
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I'm going to agree with Ken Flo and Franklin McNeil and say CB tapped. He's beginning to make a good run at tapping and then winning.
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Post #25 1/5/09 10:43:14PM
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