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do u need to defend your title i have heard this several times and what with forrest griffins title defense tomorow id like know if anyone feels this way

keep in mind could this expresion be different in the 205 division because of how deep it is and all the style matchups

Post #1   12/26/08 11:00:00PM   

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I give any champ mad props for winning the title, but in my opinion, in order to be considered a true champion, you should successfully defend your title at least once.

Opinions are going to be all over the map for this one, FYI.

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Post #2   12/26/08 11:30:19PM   

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There's the old adage, "It's harder to defend the title than it is to win it in the first place."

You're a champion either way, but if you can defend when the entire division is gunning for you--and a big bullseye is on your back; well that's what seperates champions from great champions.

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Agreed- Matt Hughes I read is considered one of the greatest champions due to the # of defenses. Deep as 205 is... and as close as a fight as it was... Forest needs to defend sucessfully to be a repected Champion.

love his heart love his self depricating humor.... but he beat an obviously not 100% Shogun and barely beat Rampage in a question mark win- (reverting to you must really BEAT the champ decisivly to win the belt.... before that a hum drum play it safe win and before that he cried when Jardine beat his astronaught.

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Posted by Wolfenstein

There's the old adage, "It's harder to defend the title than it is to win it in the first place."

You're a champion either way, but if you can defend when the entire division is gunning for you--and a big bullseye is on your back; well that's what seperates champions from great champions.


well said also to the coment about forrests last 2 wins man they where wins by all means but i could see how thatd put a cloud over his reign as champ but lets face it IF he beats rashad someone will still have a excuss for it

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Yeah i agree, you have to defend you title at least once before you can call yourself a true champion. But to win it for your first time is still the greatest accomplishment, if that makes sense lol.

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It's about the old saying "lightning never strikes the same place twice" To prove you didn't just get lucky in your first matchup you've got to go out there and be dominant again.

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Posted by Jackelope

It's about the old saying "lightning never strikes the same place twice" To prove you didn't just get lucky in your first matchup you've got to go out there and be dominant again.





i think your previous wins before the title match proves the lightning theory wrong no on gets a title match with one win

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Posted by Jackelope

It's about the old saying "lightning never strikes the same place twice" To prove you didn't just get lucky in your first matchup you've got to go out there and be dominant again.





i think your previous wins before the title match proves the lightning theory wrong no on gets a title match with one win



No but they can get title shots without beating top competition. IE Matt Serra

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Posted by Pookie


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Posted by Jackelope

It's about the old saying "lightning never strikes the same place twice" To prove you didn't just get lucky in your first matchup you've got to go out there and be dominant again.





i think your previous wins before the title match proves the lightning theory wrong no on gets a title match with one win



No but they can get title shots without beating top competition. IE Matt Serra



Exactly, a company can be crooked which the UFC has shown small signs of, take boxing for example an extremely crooked sport and it has screwed over fighters careers.

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What signs? When? Where?

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Posted by Caleb_z

What signs? When? Where?





no no they were right matt serra

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Posted by Jackelope

It's about the old saying "lightning never strikes the same place twice" To prove you didn't just get lucky in your first matchup you've got to go out there and be dominant again.





i think your previous wins before the title match proves the lightning theory wrong no on gets a title match with one win



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well brock is a different story if ya ask me

Post #14   12/29/08 2:05:11PM   

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Its hard to say. People will remember Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddel, and Matt Hughes for a longer time because of their dominance and title reign but at the same time people still will remember BJ Penn and Randy Couture though they didnt have long reigns while holding their belts.

In the end, I think you are seen a legend if you show that all threw your career you are able to stand against top competition. Obviously holding the title for a long time makes that easier to do but other fighters have proven it can be done without the belt as the main focus.

Some of the best fights werent for the title and its just the same with some of the best fighters wont be remembered for their title reign.

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