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The Anti-pansy
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Following Steve Cantwell’s impressive submission victory over Razak Al Hassan at last week’s UFC Fight for the Troops, the victor gave a post fight interview that included some comment that many have felt were inappropriate. Cantwell won the fight via armbar in which his opponent’s elbow dislocated due to the pressure applied. While being interviewed by Joe Rogan, Cantwell said that he had “always wanted to do that” and seemingly was very pleased when he watched the replay and saw the joint dislocate. Cantwell interview
...like I said in other threads...he's not a bad guy, he just got caught up in the moment.
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Post #1 12/16/08 2:46:52PM
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Jim_Dangle
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I don't think people thought he was some evil prick after that. He just said something that MMA haters would latch onto and spew bullshit about how barbaric MMA is.
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Post #2 12/16/08 2:59:05PM
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wiggum
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Posted by Jim_Dangle
I don't think people thought he was some evil prick after that. He just said something that MMA haters would latch onto and spew bullshit about how barbaric MMA is.
yep.....agreed.....overreacting drama queens....worse has been said and less drama came out of it........i thought it was sweet ending and probably would have reacted the same in some fashion
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Post #3 12/16/08 3:11:54PM
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wrona666
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A lot of people are getting all butthurt about this, but i personally thought it was hillarious!!!!!!!!!
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Post #4 12/16/08 3:18:58PM
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BigEvil
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Yeah I didn't have a problem with his comments although he did sound a little to excited. I would have never guessed there was even a controversey until I logged on to the intranet.
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Post #5 12/16/08 3:35:16PM
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finnish_line
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He could have wished his opponent a speedy recovery.
He came off as a douche to me, although I'm not calling for his head or anything.
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Post #6 12/16/08 3:40:31PM
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The-Don
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I did not hear the comments as they were made jsut all I read. comments made after a fight I never take overly critical.. fighters are hyped up on adrenaline and the win and all.. they are short on breath maybe took a few shots to the head and all.. in other words.. They are not thinking clearly at that point. he realized what he said could have come off as uncaring.. after all he injured the dude . I think its more about how he reacts later that night and the next day and Cantwell did what he should have after he calmed down and all. now if he had a history of comments like this say like... Oh... Tito ortiz... Who done many a douche bag thing after a win there is no apologizing for it..
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Post #7 12/16/08 4:22:37PM
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NE-1
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Posted by finnish_line
He could have wished his opponent a speedy recovery.
He came off as a douche to me, although I'm not calling for his head or anything.
It's not the end of the world, but I think it's important to remember that this is a sport. It could learn from the NFL for example when a player is down on the field and it's something serious both teams take a knee and applaud when the player is ok. What kind of reaction would you get if someone gets hurt and the other team started clapping and saying they've been waiting their whole life to injure a player beyond normal circumstance. The bottom line is it's still a sport and while more rough then others, there still is no room for malice.
I've had my arm popped in BJJ practice it was accidental and was a freak accident, but the guy felt awful. My injury wasn't as severe and I still have moments where it hurts (occurred over a year ago) if its pushed beyond its normal range of motion even slightly. If the guy had said yeah thats awesome I think i may have taken his knee out with a pipe
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Post #8 12/16/08 4:23:56PM
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higdon10
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He didn't show much class at all. But I'm not upset. Its whatever.
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Post #9 12/16/08 5:26:54PM
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bls1919
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Good read ,and Cantwell came off sincere. Hopefully Al Hassan can heal up to 100%.
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Post #10 12/16/08 5:44:53PM
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Red-Dragon
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Yeah we can let this one go because he's an American after all.
Not like latching onto comments made by a certain Brit after a certain fight
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Post #11 12/16/08 6:00:58PM
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Sir_Karl
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The problem isn't with Cantwell's comment. The problem is with the person(s) who first had issue with it. It just shows that some people have no clue how to perceive and interpret things properly. Nor do they have any tact. Of course it is supposed to be a free country and people should be allowed to say what they like. So who the hell am I to criticize the critic? I had no issue with it...but if someone else did....that's their issue.

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Post #12 12/16/08 6:26:24PM
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FrankTheTank1181
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People need to remember the dude is 22 years old and just got his first win in the UFC, he just got caught up in the moment.
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Post #13 12/16/08 7:01:23PM
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RearNakedJoke
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the comment would not have bothered me at all had he thanked his opponent or maybe showed some respect or concern for him.
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Post #14 12/16/08 7:53:59PM
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mutosufan
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So this is America, the land of the free and home of the brave. Where we have free speech and we should be permitted to say any and all.
So if he stood up and said, "that N:::::: was stupid for not tapping. He got what he deserved!" It would still be OKey Dokey with everyone?
I don't think so. His reaction and comments are the antithesis of what this sport is about! Look no further than A. Silva, Rich Franklin, GSP to name a few.
Am I calling for his head? No. Especially since he called him up to issue an apology. That alone took a big man. There is excited then there is ignorance. He was the latter in this situation. But you live and you learn. And he did just that.
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Post #15 12/16/08 7:56:53PM
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