Pick'em Leagues: THE BIG SHOW CASUAL BEST OF THE REST Single Event PvP: FANTASY POOLS Betting Leagues: THE BIG SHOW BEST OF THE REST

Cantwell Explains Controversial Comment

Print  
  Page 1 of 2     1     2  
Posted By Message

scoozna

Annoying since 2007

scoozna Avatar
7
 
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:3,067
Career:2,356-1,302
Joined:Jan 2007
Camp: The Ringers
Chips:
609
Following Steve Cantwell’s impressive submission victory over Razak Al Hassan at last week’s UFC Fight for the Troops, the victor gave a post fight interview that included some comment that many have felt were inappropriate. Cantwell won the fight via armbar in which his opponent’s elbow dislocated due to the pressure applied. While being interviewed by Joe Rogan, Cantwell said that he had “always wanted to do that” and seemingly was very pleased when he watched the replay and saw the joint dislocate.
Cantwell interview


...like I said in other threads...he's not a bad guy, he just got caught up in the moment.

Last edited 12/16/08 2:47PM server time by scoozna
Edit note/reason: n/a

_______________________________________
“Islam is the religion of peace & I'm a gay pirate playing harpsicord in a Lawrence Welk coverband!.” Ted Nugent

Post #1   12/16/08 2:46:52PM   

Jim_Dangle

Banned

 
 
 


 
 
Posts:75
Career:87-44
Joined:Nov 2008
Chips:
9
I don't think people thought he was some evil prick after that. He just said something that MMA haters would latch onto and spew bullshit about how barbaric MMA is.

Post #2   12/16/08 2:59:05PM   

wiggum

In Full Mount

wiggum Avatar
1
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:599
Career:837-507
Joined:Jun 2007
Chips:
119

Posted by Jim_Dangle

I don't think people thought he was some evil prick after that. He just said something that MMA haters would latch onto and spew bullshit about how barbaric MMA is.




yep.....agreed.....overreacting drama queens....worse has been said and less drama came out of it........i thought it was sweet ending and probably would have reacted the same in some fashion

Post #3   12/16/08 3:11:54PM   

wrona666

In Full Mount

wrona666 Avatar
5




 
 
 


 
 
Posts:788
Career:1,102-674
Joined:Jun 2007
Chips:
79
A lot of people are getting all butthurt about this, but i personally thought it was hillarious!!!!!!!!!

Post #4   12/16/08 3:18:58PM   

BigEvil

Standup Guy

BigEvil Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:353
Career:342-204
Joined:Jun 2007
Camp: SC MMA
Chips:
25
Yeah I didn't have a problem with his comments although he did sound a little to excited. I would have never guessed there was even a controversey until I logged on to the intranet.

Post #5   12/16/08 3:35:16PM   

finnish_line

In Full Mount

finnish_line Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:618
Career:517-331
Joined:Aug 2007
Camp: Great Boxe
Chips:
103

He could have wished his opponent a speedy recovery.

He came off as a douche to me, although I'm not calling for his head or anything.

Post #6   12/16/08 3:40:31PM   

The-Don

Belt Contender

The-Don Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:855
Career:583-418
Joined:Nov 2007
Camp: Savage Nation MMA
Chips:
41
I did not hear the comments as they were made jsut all I read. comments made after a fight I never take overly critical.. fighters are hyped up on adrenaline and the win and all.. they are short on breath maybe took a few shots to the head and all.. in other words.. They are not thinking clearly at that point. he realized what he said could have come off as uncaring.. after all he injured the dude . I think its more about how he reacts later that night and the next day and Cantwell did what he should have after he calmed down and all. now if he had a history of comments like this say like... Oh... Tito ortiz... Who done many a douche bag thing after a win there is no apologizing for it..

Post #7   12/16/08 4:22:37PM   

NE-1

MMA Regular

NE-1 Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:199
Career:1,332-913
Joined:Apr 2007
Camp: GSPeed on your face
Chips:
96

Posted by finnish_line


He could have wished his opponent a speedy recovery.

He came off as a douche to me, although I'm not calling for his head or anything.



It's not the end of the world, but I think it's important to remember that this is a sport. It could learn from the NFL for example when a player is down on the field and it's something serious both teams take a knee and applaud when the player is ok. What kind of reaction would you get if someone gets hurt and the other team started clapping and saying they've been waiting their whole life to injure a player beyond normal circumstance. The bottom line is it's still a sport and while more rough then others, there still is no room for malice.

I've had my arm popped in BJJ practice it was accidental and was a freak accident, but the guy felt awful. My injury wasn't as severe and I still have moments where it hurts (occurred over a year ago) if its pushed beyond its normal range of motion even slightly. If the guy had said yeah thats awesome I think i may have taken his knee out with a pipe

Last edited 12/16/08 4:25PM server time by ne-1
Edit note/reason: n/a

Post #8   12/16/08 4:23:56PM   

higdon10

MMA Sensei

higdon10 Avatar
1
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:2,191
Career:517-342
Joined:Jul 2007
Chips:
200
He didn't show much class at all. But I'm not upset. Its whatever.

Post #9   12/16/08 5:26:54PM   

bls1919

Banned From Forums

bls1919 Avatar
1
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:2,068
Career:308-183
Joined:Jun 2007
Chips:
137
Good read ,and Cantwell came off sincere. Hopefully Al Hassan can heal up to 100%.

Post #10   12/16/08 5:44:53PM   

Red-Dragon

In Full Mount

Red-Dragon Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:549
Career:337-201
Joined:Jun 2007
Camp: The Bravo Forum
Chips:
78
Yeah we can let this one go because he's an American after all.

Not like latching onto comments made by a certain Brit after a certain fight

Post #11   12/16/08 6:00:58PM   

Sir_Karl

MMA Sensei

Sir_Karl Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:1,131
Career:2,324-1,566
Joined:Sep 2007
Chips:
217
The problem isn't with Cantwell's comment.
The problem is with the person(s) who first had issue with it.
It just shows that some people have no clue how to perceive and interpret things properly.
Nor do they have any tact.
Of course it is supposed to be a free country and people should be allowed to say what they like.
So who the hell am I to criticize the critic?
I had no issue with it...but if someone else did....that's their issue.



Last edited 12/16/08 6:27PM server time by Sir_Karl
Edit note/reason: n/a

Post #12   12/16/08 6:26:24PM   

FrankTheTank1181

Standup Guy

FrankTheTank1181 Avatar
1
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:413
Career:1,487-880
Joined:Jan 2008
Camp: 360 Mafia
Chips:
77
People need to remember the dude is 22 years old and just got his first win in the UFC, he just got caught up in the moment.

Post #13   12/16/08 7:01:23PM   

RearNakedJoke

In Full Mount

RearNakedJoke Avatar
 
 
 


 
 
Posts:592
Career:1,226-867
Joined:Aug 2008
Chips:
103
the comment would not have bothered me at all had he thanked his opponent or maybe showed some respect or concern for him.

Post #14   12/16/08 7:53:59PM   

mutosufan

MMA Regular

 
 
 


 
 
Posts:50
Career:33-26
Joined:Aug 2007
Chips:
2
So this is America, the land of the free and home of the brave. Where we have free speech and we should be permitted to say any and all.

So if he stood up and said, "that N:::::: was stupid for not tapping. He got what he deserved!" It would still be OKey Dokey with everyone?

I don't think so. His reaction and comments are the antithesis of what this sport is about! Look no further than A. Silva, Rich Franklin, GSP to name a few.

Am I calling for his head? No. Especially since he called him up to issue an apology. That alone took a big man. There is excited then there is ignorance. He was the latter in this situation. But you live and you learn. And he did just that.

Post #15   12/16/08 7:56:53PM   
 
  Page 1 of 2     1     2