What MMA rules would you change if you could unify the organizations? |
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Boondock Saints Mod
Career record: 220-126
Season: 50-20 (#137)
Location: California
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I prefer the octagon over any other cage or ring, and theres no way out. ( sort of a thunderdome vibe)It's bigger and I don't like the fact that fights have to be restarted or stopped when they get tangled up in the ropes.Not to mention someone can fall through to the floor or be blocked from defending themselves when tangled in them. I also, think yellow cards should be universal if they could come up with a good and well defined criteria for issuing them . I think elbows and knees to the head on the ground should be allowed. However, I don't like foot stomps or head kicks to a downed opponent. Somebody could die. While that would be a tragedy enough by itself, It would also give people who think MMa is barbaric fuel to shut it down. Last, I would like a sudden death round for 3 roound fights that should be a draw. The judges could even discuus amonmgst themselves if the fight was to close to call , and then declare the extra round.
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Post #1 1/20/07 5:41:36PM
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Dai
MMA Regular
Career record: 38-20
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Crystal City
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As we saw when Pride came to Las Vegas, not allowing knees to a "downed opponent" can drastically slow things down- Mark Coleman should've been finished much sooner than he was. Taht is something I would allow.
I don't particularly like seeing fights end on cuts, and cuts have a nasty tendency to affect a fighter's career for a while; if I would outlaw anything it would simply be elbows to the head. Elbows to the head end fights by cut not KO. Seriously, when was the last time you saw an elbow deal a straiht out KO?
I prefer the cage to the ring, however the ring is less dehumanizing in the eyes of the general public. It would be difficult to decide between the two venues primarily because I am concerned with how the sport looks to outsiders/lawmakers/critics.
One thing I would do would be to create a "legends" or "master" division. That is a sort of exhibition circuit for older fighters to continue to compete and show off their skill without having to be humiliated in the ring by the young p and comers. For matches like Rickson v. Couture, Sakuraba V. Shamrock, etc. These guys have a lot of skill and showmanship and simply unique styles to bring to the ring. I think it would be worth it.
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Post #2 1/20/07 6:23:42PM
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Unkoman
MMA Regular
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Career record: 204-132
Season: 37-33 (#3421)
Location: Kelowna Canada
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Yellow cards are fantastic but i think they should subtract round points and not fighters purse.
They should be used sparingly ( Unless Tim's fighting)
Keep the elbows and allow kicks to downed opponents but now stomps. The knees and kicks help neutralize the bjj and keep the fight moving.
There should never be hits to the back of the head and spine.
I prefer the ring over the cage but thats just for better viewing
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Post #3 1/20/07 6:28:23PM
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Boondock Saints Mod
Career record: 220-126
Season: 50-20 (#137)
Location: California
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I disagree about the elbows, although I uderstand your point. I think on the ground specifically elbow and knee strikes prevent someone from just grabbing on and waiting for a restart. I like the legends division, although I think Rickson is all talk , and wouldn't fight anyway. Sweet dexter avatar by the way.
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“Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil. Never back away from an enemy. Either fight or surrender. It is not enough to say I will not be evil. Evil must be fought wherever it is found.”
The Iron Code
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Post #4 1/20/07 6:29:52PM
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Unkoman
MMA Regular
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Career record: 204-132
Season: 37-33 (#3421)
Location: Kelowna Canada
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The legends idea is fantastic. But tough to decide how the older fighters qualify.
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Post #5 1/20/07 6:30:31PM
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loller90278
MMA Sensei
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Career record: 164-119
Season: 34-19 (#2756)
Location: Redondo Beach
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yes, dexter is my favorite show.
the second book is good as well!
third one is coming soon.
but anyways, i would allow headbutts, but no elbows.
and then bring in zidane vs coleman.
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Post #6 1/20/07 7:41:33PM
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JerkmanForever
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 20-13
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: CA
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I agree with the Hippy, the cage is way better. Cro Cop is going to love the bigger space to move around, not that he really needed it. I dont like it when the fight has to be stoped and moved to the center because they are tangled in the ropes. For that reason the octagon is way better.
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Post #7 1/20/07 9:44:55PM
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aceprone
Standup Guy
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Career record: 225-114
Season: 49-17 (#118)
Location: Hemet, CA
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A ring can allow a fighter to stall a fight by ethier falling out of it (Yoshida vs. Tomphson) or putting their head out of the ropes to allow time for them to restart and rest. I believe a cage gives a good fighter a way to stand up and have to find a way to recover and find better positioning. For intance, pushing off the cage. Constant action. Chuck Liddell is a master at doing this. I do agree with adden death round. That would be awsome! And I do think that judges should be recuired to take some sort of martial art instructional classes, so that they can better judge a mma fight.
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Post #8 1/21/07 3:27:49AM
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Livershot
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 216-117
Season: 46-22 (#1052)
Location: UK
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Posted by JerkmanForever
I agree with the Hippy, the cage is way better. Cro Cop is going to love the bigger space to move around, not that he really needed it. I dont like it when the fight has to be stoped and moved to the center because they are tangled in the ropes. For that reason the octagon is way better.
He could have done with the extra space when he was running away from Fedor and Hunt during their fights 
Personally i prefer the ring, but don't mind the cage, I feel the ring provides better visibility, whereas the cage prevents any unecessary exits through the ropes.
I would keep elbows and soccer kicks/stomps, the main rule i would keep though is knees to a downed opponent. (even Dana White wants these, as he stated in a recent webcast)
I also prefer 10 min first rounds, I guess the closer to Vale Tudo the better for me, although I do understand the need to sanitise the sport somewhat to appeal to the wider audience
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Post #9 1/21/07 6:33:29AM
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nate22
Belt Contender
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Career record: 52-35
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Manchester/Leeds, England
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The cage provides a distinct and in my opinion unfair advantage for those stronger at wrestling.
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Post #10 1/21/07 6:59:57AM
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Savy
MMA Regular
Career record: 61-50
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Upper Beast Side
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ring 
cage
elbows
soccer kicks
knees to the head of a downed opponent
10 min opening round
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Post #11 1/22/07 5:22:50PM
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strikefirstgear
MMA Regular
Career record: 50-30
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Northern California
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In the octagon for sure.
Keep knees for downed opponant but lose stomps.
Not sure which is better elbows or head butting (I dont like cuts ending fights) but not both.
Better training for the judges.
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Post #12 1/22/07 9:18:56PM
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Red_Elvis
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 29-22
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Mother Russia... Weere Else?
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Knees on the ground
Headbutts
(unskilled strike ala early Coleman + cut factor)
Yellow cards
Cage
Ring
Kicking downed opponent
(no to head, yes to body)
Elbows - mixed feelings on this one.
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Post #13 1/22/07 10:13:31PM
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Savy
MMA Regular
Career record: 61-50
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: Upper Beast Side
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I'm torn about the elbows as well. Its a tough call....
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Post #14 1/22/07 10:24:52PM
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crimethinc
MMA Regular
Career record: 81-61
Season: 0-0 (#-)
Location: St. Louis, MO USA
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I personally prefer a ring to a cage. Even though Getting tangled in the ropes or falling out of the ring does interrupt fights, I think pinning someone up against the cage is a huge stall in fights that can go on for minutes at a time. Also a smaller area helps force aggressiveness because you can't keep backing up.
I also think that everytime there is a boring title fight(i.e. Sylvia vs. Monson) both fighters should have to give me $100.
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Post #15 1/27/07 8:00:21AM
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