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Why is it people find the need to say when they are right. Is it because they are wrong most of the time and are shocked the first time they are right that they need to point it out to everyone. Last nights fight was a shock to not only to most MMA fans but also to people that do sports odds. Just because Rashad won doesn't make him the greatest ever. He still has a lot of holes in his game. I find it funny how fast people forget things if a guy gets a big win. Well what about the Tito fight, Bisping fight, Bonnar fight, or the Hoger fight. He didn't look good in any of those fights. So lets not start thinking because he KOed Chuck in a very sloppy exchange that he is just going to walk over Forrest.

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Post #31   9/7/08 5:38:21PM   

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you know i love chuck and stuff but i gotta give props to rashad. He executed his gameplan perfectly and really earned that knockout. Complete shock to me and chuck fans but yeah. congrats rashad and his fans

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i think Evans can take Griffin

Post #33   9/7/08 6:14:12PM   

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lol btw, i was sayin the only way I would be satisfied by that fight is if it was a Double KO. I really dont like Chuck or Rashad, but I do have much respect for the two.

Machida doesnt deserve a shot now that Chuck has been KO'd by Rashad. Who has Machida beaten in the UFC? Tito and Soko. Soko in his 5th pro fight, and Tito after coming off 0-1-1 in last 2. Rashad has beaten Bisping, draw with Tito and KO on Chuck.

I say Machida vs Wandy or Rampage, and Rashad vs Griffin.

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lol btw, i was sayin the only way I would be satisfied by that fight is if it was a Double KO. I really dont like Chuck or Rashad, but I do have much respect for the two.

Machida doesnt deserve a shot now that Chuck has been KO'd by Rashad. Who has Machida beaten in the UFC? Tito and Soko. Soko in his 5th pro fight, and Tito after coming off 0-1-1 in last 2. Rashad has beaten Bisping, draw with Tito and KO on Chuck.

I say Machida vs Wandy or Rampage, and Rashad vs Griffin.



lol, your argument favors Machida way more than Rashad imo. Rashad didn't even defeat Tito, Machida did. Machida defeated Soko, who has defeated 2 top LHW fighters in Arona and Lil Nog. Bisping has never in his career defeated someone in the top ten let alone face anyone in the top ten besides Rashad. plus, that fight was a SD. the KO over Chuck was very impressive and definitely makes Rashad climb the rankings, but Machida has accomplished more at LHW imo and deserves one before Rashad.

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Post #35   9/7/08 6:42:11PM   

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lol btw, i was sayin the only way I would be satisfied by that fight is if it was a Double KO. I really dont like Chuck or Rashad, but I do have much respect for the two.

Machida doesnt deserve a shot now that Chuck has been KO'd by Rashad. Who has Machida beaten in the UFC? Tito and Soko. Soko in his 5th pro fight, and Tito after coming off 0-1-1 in last 2. Rashad has beaten Bisping, draw with Tito and KO on Chuck.

I say Machida vs Wandy or Rampage, and Rashad vs Griffin.



lol, your argument favors Machida way more than Rashad imo. Rashad didn't even defeat Tito, Machida did. Machida defeated Soko, who has defeated 2 top LHW fighters in Arona and Lil Nog. Bisping has never in his career defeated someone in the top ten let alone face anyone in the top ten besides Rashad. plus, that fight was a SD. the KO over Chuck was very impressive and definitely makes Rashad climb the rankings, but Machida has accomplished more at LHW imo and deserves one before Rashad.



you know, bitch all ya want but the kid makes a good point. and besides rashad won the fight despite what you and the judges think. and at least rashad puts on decent and exciting fights.

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lol, your argument favors Machida way more than Rashad imo. Rashad didn't even defeat Tito, Machida did. Machida defeated Soko, who has defeated 2 top LHW fighters in Arona and Lil Nog. Bisping has never in his career defeated someone in the top ten let alone face anyone in the top ten besides Rashad. plus, that fight was a SD. the KO over Chuck was very impressive and definitely makes Rashad climb the rankings, but Machida has accomplished more at LHW imo and deserves one before Rashad.



you know, bitch all ya want but the kid makes a good point. and besides rashad won the fight despite what you and the judges think. and at least rashad puts on decent and exciting fights.



well that was one of the most unnecessary reactions i have ever read. i was just disagreeing as the people Machida has defeated has more weight then the people Rashad has beaten. i personally think Machida puts on an exciting fight, and a lot of unknowledgeable fans have shown that they do not appreciate his style of fighting. Rashad was running...excuse me...dancing away in the first round...Machida evades and counters. i find Machida's counter style to be very entertaining, so when you argue something so subjective as "entertaining fights" into your argument it shows you do not really have much there.

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lets face it griffin vs evans does not have draw power to get the butts in the seats
they have to co promote it with the mir vs big nog match

but i will finally pick griffin to beat evans
griffin will sub evans watch

i still can't believe lidell got knocked out by evans huge upset!!

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Posted by jiujitsufreak74


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lol btw, i was sayin the only way I would be satisfied by that fight is if it was a Double KO. I really dont like Chuck or Rashad, but I do have much respect for the two.

Machida doesnt deserve a shot now that Chuck has been KO'd by Rashad. Who has Machida beaten in the UFC? Tito and Soko. Soko in his 5th pro fight, and Tito after coming off 0-1-1 in last 2. Rashad has beaten Bisping, draw with Tito and KO on Chuck.

I say Machida vs Wandy or Rampage, and Rashad vs Griffin.



lol, your argument favors Machida way more than Rashad imo. Rashad didn't even defeat Tito, Machida did. Machida defeated Soko, who has defeated 2 top LHW fighters in Arona and Lil Nog. Bisping has never in his career defeated someone in the top ten let alone face anyone in the top ten besides Rashad. plus, that fight was a SD. the KO over Chuck was very impressive and definitely makes Rashad climb the rankings, but Machida has accomplished more at LHW imo and deserves one before Rashad.



Soko has had some good wins, but is still VERY VERY much new to the world of MMA. And Machida's only finshed fight in the UFC was Soko. He won a very boring decision against Tito, where he did the least possible to win. Rashad goes and fights the former Champ, and K him TFO, even worse than wat Rampage did. If Machida KO Tito, it would be different, but he didnt, and didnt really come close besides winding Tito.

Im not Sayin Machida doesnt deseerve a title shot, just Rashad deserves it more that he knocked out the UFC Poster boy.

Machida is not the guy UFC wants as champ, not yet. Let him fight Wandy or Rampage ( He would own Wandy, not so sure on Page) and then we'll talk.

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lol btw, i was sayin the only way I would be satisfied by that fight is if it was a Double KO. I really dont like Chuck or Rashad, but I do have much respect for the two.

Machida doesnt deserve a shot now that Chuck has been KO'd by Rashad. Who has Machida beaten in the UFC? Tito and Soko. Soko in his 5th pro fight, and Tito after coming off 0-1-1 in last 2. Rashad has beaten Bisping, draw with Tito and KO on Chuck.

I say Machida vs Wandy or Rampage, and Rashad vs Griffin.



lol, your argument favors Machida way more than Rashad imo. Rashad didn't even defeat Tito, Machida did. Machida defeated Soko, who has defeated 2 top LHW fighters in Arona and Lil Nog. Bisping has never in his career defeated someone in the top ten let alone face anyone in the top ten besides Rashad. plus, that fight was a SD. the KO over Chuck was very impressive and definitely makes Rashad climb the rankings, but Machida has accomplished more at LHW imo and deserves one before Rashad.



Soko has had some good wins, but is still VERY VERY much new to the world of MMA. And Machida's only finshed fight in the UFC was Soko. He won a very boring decision against Tito, where he did the least possible to win. Rashad goes and fights the former Champ, and K him TFO, even worse than wat Rampage did. If Machida KO Tito, it would be different, but he didnt, and didnt really come close besides winding Tito.

Im not Sayin Machida doesnt deseerve a title shot, just Rashad deserves it more that he knocked out the UFC Poster boy.

Machida is not the guy UFC wants as champ, not yet. Let him fight Wandy or Rampage ( He would own Wandy, not so sure on Page) and then we'll talk.



i'll agree to disagree because i feel that the way a fight is ended (save for a SD) has no bearing on your rank in the title picture.

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I say good job to Evans lat night. Great punch. That said, i cant wait to see Forrest put him into the cage execute some knees and then take him to the ground for some GnP. This one is going 5 rnds with Forrest winning the UD

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Rashad looked good last night and props that he beat Chuck, but I don't think he'll beat Griffin.

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lol btw, i was sayin the only way I would be satisfied by that fight is if it was a Double KO. I really dont like Chuck or Rashad, but I do have much respect for the two.

Machida doesnt deserve a shot now that Chuck has been KO'd by Rashad. Who has Machida beaten in the UFC? Tito and Soko. Soko in his 5th pro fight, and Tito after coming off 0-1-1 in last 2. Rashad has beaten Bisping, draw with Tito and KO on Chuck.

I say Machida vs Wandy or Rampage, and Rashad vs Griffin.



lol, your argument favors Machida way more than Rashad imo. Rashad didn't even defeat Tito, Machida did. Machida defeated Soko, who has defeated 2 top LHW fighters in Arona and Lil Nog. Bisping has never in his career defeated someone in the top ten let alone face anyone in the top ten besides Rashad. plus, that fight was a SD. the KO over Chuck was very impressive and definitely makes Rashad climb the rankings, but Machida has accomplished more at LHW imo and deserves one before Rashad.



Soko has had some good wins, but is still VERY VERY much new to the world of MMA. And Machida's only finshed fight in the UFC was Soko. He won a very boring decision against Tito, where he did the least possible to win. Rashad goes and fights the former Champ, and K him TFO, even worse than wat Rampage did. If Machida KO Tito, it would be different, but he didnt, and didnt really come close besides winding Tito.

Im not Sayin Machida doesnt deseerve a title shot, just Rashad deserves it more that he knocked out the UFC Poster boy.

Machida is not the guy UFC wants as champ, not yet. Let him fight Wandy or Rampage ( He would own Wandy, not so sure on Page) and then we'll talk.



i'll agree to disagree because i feel that the way a fight is ended (save for a SD) has no bearing on your rank in the title picture.



I hear where you are coming from, but I don't think that's the way Zuffa sees it.

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I hear where you are coming from, but I don't think that's the way Zuffa sees it.

And the avy bet is over man... you can go back to the green man if you want to... although that is a sweet avatar!



haha i know it is over. i am just waiting for a palhares avatar from the MMA Avatar thread. i figured i'll just keep this one b/c by the time it changes on the forums they'll have my palhares one done.

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I swear some of you guys need to go to the gym and study up a little bit on your "fighting." What Rashad was doing wasn't "running". He had a decided game plan, that being to not let Chuck set his feet and punch, and to counterpunch using the left hook. Why? Because when Lidell throws his haymaker right cross he drops his left. Since Rashad has faster hand speed than Chuck he was using that left hook to go over the Chucks left hook, jab and Chuck's right. Chuck was loading up man, and he was keeping his hands low. He has a tell too. If you watch his right he actually subtly drops it just a little bit right before he throws it. Rashad knew that tell and would step out of range or step in and throw.

Seriously, guys I get frustrated when I read so many "fight fans" talk about fights but do so little analysis of the 'sweet science'. Rashad is a counter puncher. So is Lyoto. I love both of those guys. I WISH I could fight like that but I lack the foot speed and lateral quickness to do it so I have no choice but to be aggressive and come forward. But at least you all should be able to 'appreciate' it.

The truth is Chuck wanted to counter punch Rashad. THAT is what accounted for a slow first round. Then Chuck decided to engage and stalk forward but Rashad's lateral movement didn't allow chuck to set his feet when he threw so he started overextendig himself in an attempt to KO Rashad. He could have won his fight if he had a gameplan too but he acted like he expected Rashad to be aggressive...and when he wasn't he didn't have too much for him except that cocked right.
The last punch though, the right after the upper cut was a thing of beauty.

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