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jocka
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I don't get what the big problem is yes it sucks that a guy with nor record makes more money but like someone said before i don't think GSP is complaining. Yes he makes more money comming direclty as a salarie but i am pretty sure when it comes to endorsement gsp must make more money, plus i don't think that Brock gives seminars either which i know GSP gives plenty.
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Post #16 9/5/08 12:15:19PM
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haggiswashere
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Posted by jocka
I don't get what the big problem is yes it sucks that a guy with nor record makes more money but like someone said before i don't think GSP is complaining. Yes he makes more money comming direclty as a salarie but i am pretty sure when it comes to endorsement gsp must make more money, plus i don't think that Brock gives seminars either which i know GSP gives plenty.
He shouldn't have to friggin complain about it. Just cuz he don't whine about every little thing doesn't mean that it doesn't bug him. it may or it may not but its ridiculous when fighters bitch about everything *cough tito ortiz cough*
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Post #17 9/5/08 12:53:40PM
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BIGKAT
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Posted by Aether
it's not really BS at all. You get paid based on how many tickets/PPVs you sell, not how good you are, that's the real world. GSP might be an amazing fighter but if you walk down the street and ask people who either of them are, more people will know brock, and if you head down to the bar and ask the average joe who he will pay to see fight on PPV night you're also going to hear Brock more than GSP. Same reason Kimbo is the main guy at EliteXC, if you sell tickets you make the company money which they then pass on to you. They don't care at all how many great fighters you dominated, they make money off of PPV and ticket sales.
Simple economics.
I disagree... GSP was putting asses in seats long before Brock came along, and unless UFC reaped a bigger payout for that PPV, then it is in fact BS
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Post #18 9/5/08 3:44:48PM
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GREENMAN!!!!
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Posted by Aether
it's not really BS at all. You get paid based on how many tickets/PPVs you sell, not how good you are, that's the real world. GSP might be an amazing fighter but if you walk down the street and ask people who either of them are, more people will know brock, and if you head down to the bar and ask the average joe who he will pay to see fight on PPV night you're also going to hear Brock more than GSP. Same reason Kimbo is the main guy at EliteXC, if you sell tickets you make the company money which they then pass on to you. They don't care at all how many great fighters you dominated, they make money off of PPV and ticket sales.
Simple economics.
I disagree... GSP was putting asses in seats long before Brock came along, and unless UFC reaped a bigger payout for that PPV, then it is in fact BS
Brock has shown to bring in higher numbers than GSP, but just barely.
UFC 81 drew 650,000 buys
UFC 87 has been reported to have made close to 600,000. i'll give you the numbers:
UFC 80 - 225,000
UFC 81 - 650,000 *Brock fought*
UFC 82 - 325,000
UFC 83 - 525,000 *GSP fought*
UFC 84 - 475,000
UFC 85 - 225,000
UFC 86 - 520,000
UFC 87 - Reported to be close to UFC 81 *Both fought*
Last edited 9/5/08 4:28PM by jiujitsufreak74
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Post #19 9/5/08 4:19:19PM
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Aether
MMA Sensei
Career record: 120-82
Season: 38-23 (#2266)
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Posted by BIGKAT
Posted by Aether
it's not really BS at all. You get paid based on how many tickets/PPVs you sell, not how good you are, that's the real world. GSP might be an amazing fighter but if you walk down the street and ask people who either of them are, more people will know brock, and if you head down to the bar and ask the average joe who he will pay to see fight on PPV night you're also going to hear Brock more than GSP. Same reason Kimbo is the main guy at EliteXC, if you sell tickets you make the company money which they then pass on to you. They don't care at all how many great fighters you dominated, they make money off of PPV and ticket sales.
Simple economics.
I disagree... GSP was putting asses in seats long before Brock came along, and unless UFC reaped a bigger payout for that PPV, then it is in fact BS
The past is irrelevant. You get paid from fight to fight based on how many asses you put in seats _today_. Right now Brock sells more tickets than GSP, it's not like it's a cumulative thing. You're as good as your last performance in business just like everywhere else.
If you go to work at a factory where the best employee generates 10 units of whatever he's building a day and you immediately start building 15 units a day, the fact that the other guy has built more units than you over the course of his career is irrelevant. You're making more _now_, and you deserve to be paid appropriately. That's all that matters in business. Money talks. Brock will generate more money on average, and that's what matters.
This is capitalism at work. Free market is one of the cornerstones of north american economy. You get paid based on what you produce, in this case what is being produced is ticket sales.
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Post #20 9/5/08 5:06:44PM
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palaceonballas
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The past is relevant, GSP has put his time in and deserves the big money
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Post #21 9/5/08 9:21:09PM
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BIGKAT
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Season: 26-21 (#4417)
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by BIGKAT
Posted by Aether
it's not really BS at all. You get paid based on how many tickets/PPVs you sell, not how good you are, that's the real world. GSP might be an amazing fighter but if you walk down the street and ask people who either of them are, more people will know brock, and if you head down to the bar and ask the average joe who he will pay to see fight on PPV night you're also going to hear Brock more than GSP. Same reason Kimbo is the main guy at EliteXC, if you sell tickets you make the company money which they then pass on to you. They don't care at all how many great fighters you dominated, they make money off of PPV and ticket sales.
Simple economics.
I disagree... GSP was putting asses in seats long before Brock came along, and unless UFC reaped a bigger payout for that PPV, then it is in fact BS
Brock has shown to bring in higher numbers than GSP, but just barely.
UFC 81 drew 650,000 buys
UFC 87 has been reported to have made close to 600,000. i'll give you the numbers:
UFC 80 - 225,000
UFC 81 - 650,000 *Brock fought*
UFC 82 - 325,000
UFC 83 - 525,000 *GSP fought*
UFC 84 - 475,000
UFC 85 - 225,000
UFC 86 - 520,000
UFC 87 - Reported to be close to UFC 81 *Both fought*
awesome...then Brock is working as a draw...Besides I think that salaries are irrelevant becaus elook at pro sports, each player makes a different amount per game, and also with performance bonuses, so it's only natural that UFC do the same...Thanks for the research numbers etc :)
tried to give you props but it wont let me for some reason.....
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Post #22 9/5/08 9:28:28PM
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Aether
MMA Sensei
Career record: 120-82
Season: 38-23 (#2266)
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Posted by palaceonballas
The past is relevant, GSP has put his time in and deserves the big money
Well I can't explain it any more clearly. Re-read my analogy about factory work, and jjfreak's PPV statistics, if you still don't understand you most likely never will.
What you're saying simply doesn't make any sense in the real world, you make money by making money, not by sticking around for a long time. You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong. Simple economics.
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Post #23 9/5/08 10:07:34PM
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MaxOne
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Posted by Aether
Posted by palaceonballas
The past is relevant, GSP has put his time in and deserves the big money
Well I can't explain it any more clearly. Re-read my analogy about factory work, and jjfreak's PPV statistics, if you still don't understand you most likely never will.
What you're saying simply doesn't make any sense in the real world, you make money by making money, not by sticking around for a long time. You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong. Simple economics.
You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong.
Blam!
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Post #24 9/6/08 1:18:47AM
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GREENMAN!!!!
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Posted by MaxOne
Posted by Aether
Posted by palaceonballas
The past is relevant, GSP has put his time in and deserves the big money
Well I can't explain it any more clearly. Re-read my analogy about factory work, and jjfreak's PPV statistics, if you still don't understand you most likely never will.
What you're saying simply doesn't make any sense in the real world, you make money by making money, not by sticking around for a long time. You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong. Simple economics.
You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong.
Blam!
other way around. he is not using emotion but rather using stone cold logic to back up his argument. look at the numbers...i really don't get why people dispute this.
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Post #25 9/6/08 1:21:15AM
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haggiswashere
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Post #26 9/6/08 1:36:33AM
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Aether
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by MaxOne
Posted by Aether
Posted by palaceonballas
The past is relevant, GSP has put his time in and deserves the big money
Well I can't explain it any more clearly. Re-read my analogy about factory work, and jjfreak's PPV statistics, if you still don't understand you most likely never will.
What you're saying simply doesn't make any sense in the real world, you make money by making money, not by sticking around for a long time. You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong. Simple economics.
You are basing your opinion off of emotions, not logic, and as a result you're wrong.
Blam!
other way around. he is not using emotion but rather using stone cold logic to back up his argument. look at the numbers...i really don't get why people dispute this.
Ah, I think he was quoting me for truth, not directing the comment at me, thanks for the backup though 
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Post #27 9/6/08 2:53:28AM
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RMFG_187
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GSP vs Penn will draw more than Randy vs Lesnar. You can guarantee that.
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Post #28 9/6/08 5:04:26AM
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Aether
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I don't really think that you can guarantee that at all...
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Post #29 9/6/08 7:29:13AM
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jocka
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Posted by RMFG_187
GSP vs Penn will draw more than Randy vs Lesnar. You can guarantee that.
Almost all hardcore fan rather see gsp vs penn 2 but most casual fan will want to see lesnar vs randy. Am a shame to say that the ppv should be better for lesnar/randy unfortunately.
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Post #30 9/6/08 10:13:26AM
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