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Smooth
Career record: 75-47
Season: 41-29 (#1810)
Location: Glen Ellyn
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Is the Janitor such an underdog in his upcoming fight? I have full faith in him to beat Nog. Not finish him but beat him at least. Mainly because wrestling usually beats BJJ
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Post #1 9/3/08 11:52:21PM
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Twenty20Dollars
MMA Sensei
Career record: 168-91
Season: 47-23 (#640)
Location: KC,MO
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i dont see vlad beating lil nog. Vlad hasnt faced a top guy like lil nog in awhile. Lil nog is better in most of the areas except for the wrestling.
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Post #2 9/3/08 11:59:05PM
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Mr_Dead_Sexy
MMA Regular
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Career record: 218-110
Season: 47-22 (#147)
Location: So Cal
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Shhhh. I want the underdog bonus.
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Post #3 9/4/08 1:44:10AM
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Mchubb316
MMA Sensei
Career record: 217-120
Season: 45-25 (#1353)
Location: Southern Oregon
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Vlad was great in the IFL. I do think that the IFL made fighters look better than they actually are. Rothwell, although showed he is tough, got beat down by AA, Schultz gets knocked out, and Whitehead gets outclassed by Babalu. These 3 fighters were a combined 20-2 in the IFL. Outside the IFL the talent level is much higher, and the competition is greater.
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Post #4 9/4/08 2:39:31AM
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The Cowboys Mod
Career record: 142-101
Season: 41-29 (#1705)
Location: Maryland
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It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.
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Post #5 9/4/08 8:16:22AM
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Smooth
Career record: 75-47
Season: 41-29 (#1810)
Location: Glen Ellyn
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Me too I'm just surprised that a name like Vlady was one
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Post #6 9/4/08 11:22:28AM
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Hammer of the Gods
Career record: 218-128
Season: 50-20 (#185)
Location: Hudson, NH
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I love Vlad, but I'll eat my hat if he wins that fight.
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Post #7 9/6/08 2:49:31AM
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Have it!!!
Career record: 136-71
Season: 43-27 (#735)
Location: Newcastle, UK
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I expect him to win, not becouse of his Jits, but becouse i think he'll also beable to pick vlad apart if it stays standing aswell.
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Post #8 9/6/08 10:06:20AM
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mkiv9secsupra
MMA Sensei
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Career record: 211-136
Season: 41-29 (#1810)
Location: ATL, GA
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Because Matyushenko has never looked impressive to me, while Nog has been in wars and come out on top, plus his ground game is light years ahead of Vlad which is where this fight is going
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Post #9 9/6/08 10:43:39AM
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casey64
MMA Sensei
Career record: 155-93
Season: 44-25 (#2004)
Location: Football Field
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Lil Nog will win.
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Post #10 9/6/08 4:05:19PM
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pv3Hpv3p
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 197-141
Season: 37-33 (#2654)
Location: East St. Paul, MN
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Posted by DCRage
It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.
Or just the fact that Nog is the better, more well rounded fighter... Regardless of names, Nogueira to a lot of people, including me, seems like the much better fighter...
To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem saying that he's the best LHW outside of the UFC
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Post #11 9/9/08 3:33:48PM
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GREENMAN!!!!
Career record: 134-73
Season: 50-20 (#178)
Location: selden, new york
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Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Posted by DCRage
It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.
Or just the fact that Nog is the better, more well rounded fighter... Regardless of names, Nogueira to a lot of people, including me, seems like the much better fighter...
To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem saying that he's the best LHW outside of the UFC
would you consider Arona in that category? because if so i feel that Arona is a lot better than Lil Nog.
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Post #12 9/9/08 3:42:36PM
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Laying down the beats
Career record: 192-150
Season: 37-33 (#1810)
Location: Canada
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Because he has the last name Nogueira. Last time I saw a guy with the last name Nogueira, despite never having heard of him before, was a favorite in a secondary league fight. The guy lost his fight.
I am sure that there are a lot of people that pick because of the name or record. I've seen great fighters as underdogs because they had a 15-8 record against a guy that is 2-0.
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Post #13 9/9/08 3:49:07PM
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Career record: 121-59
Season: 55-15 (#42)
Location: Massachusetts
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Matyushenko beat Lil Nog back in 2002 by outwrestling him, and I fully expect him to do the same 6 years later.
Matyushenko is being underrated because he hasn't faced a lot of topo guys recently and Nog has a big name and some big victoriesover Alistair Overseam and Dan Henderson.
It's going to be a close fight but "the janitor" has much better wrestling and he has never been submitted. He'll keep Nog on his back, GnP, and avoid submissions.
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Post #14 9/9/08 4:21:44PM
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The best kicker in the world
Career record: 170-89
Season: 37-18 (#2479)
Location: Regina SK
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by pv3Hpv3p
Posted by DCRage
It's probably "name picking". Nog gets a lot of picks just because of his name and the expectations that come with it, most people probably expect him to win because of it.
Or just the fact that Nog is the better, more well rounded fighter... Regardless of names, Nogueira to a lot of people, including me, seems like the much better fighter...
To be honest, I wouldn't have a problem saying that he's the best LHW outside of the UFC
would you consider Arona in that category? because if so i feel that Arona is a lot better than Lil Nog.
Really? I feel the ground games pretty much negate each other, and both have decent wrestling tactics(nog uses trips arona strngth) while Nog has much better stand up.
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Post #15 9/9/08 9:37:41PM
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