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mrkennedy
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Season: 51-19 (#168)
Location: montreal
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HW=Maybe Heath Herring
LHW=Wilson Gouveia
MW=Jason Macdonald
WW=Chris Lytle or Josh Burkman
LW=Spencer Fisher
give me your oppinion
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Post #1 8/26/08 2:57:49AM
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Posted by mrkennedy
HW=Maybe Heath Herring
LHW=Wilson Gouveia
MW=Jason Macdonald
WW=Chris Lytle or Josh Burkman
LW=Spencer Fisher
give me your oppinion
I would tend to agree except maybe at LWT, and definitely at LHWT. I would say Guida instead of Fisher probably, and Bonnar at LHVY. Gouvea is moving to 185 last I heard, and I think he will be a contender at that weight . Despite his loss at 205 I still think he had top 6-10 abilty there. All the rest I'm with you.
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Post #2 8/26/08 3:26:36AM
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Posted by mrkennedy
HW=Maybe Heath Herring
LHW=Wilson Gouveia
MW=Jason Macdonald
WW=Chris Lytle or Josh Burkman
LW=Spencer Fisher
give me your oppinion
I would tend to agree except maybe at LWT, and definitely at LHWT. I would say Guida instead of Fisher probably, and Bonnar at LHVY. Gouvea is moving to 185 last I heard, and I think he will be a contender at that weight . Despite his loss at 205 I still think he had top 6-10 abilty there. All the rest I'm with you.
i like bonner at lhw too
lambert at mw seems good to me
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Post #3 8/26/08 3:32:25AM
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RIP Evan Tanner 1971-2008
Career record: 108-58
Season: 44-26 (#796)
Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
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give me your oppinion
I would tend to agree except maybe at LWT, and definitely at LHWT. I would say Guida instead of Fisher probably, and Bonnar at LHVY. Gouvea is moving to 185 last I heard, and I think he will be a contender at that weight . Despite his loss at 205 I still think he had top 6-10 abilty there. All the rest I'm with you.
i'll tell ya one thing buddy. clay guida is a lot more then just a gate keeper in the lw division. he will challenge for a title one day. mark my words. GIPPER.
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Post #4 8/26/08 3:47:26AM
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Career record: 142-101
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Location: Maryland
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HW-Gonzaga or Kongo
LHW-Not sure
MW-Franklin
WW-Parisyan
LW-Stevenson
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Post #5 8/26/08 10:10:39AM
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StevenSeagal
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Career record: 105-56
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Posted by mrkennedy
HW=Maybe Heath Herring
LHW=Wilson Gouveia
MW=Jason Macdonald
WW=Chris Lytle or Josh Burkman
LW=Spencer Fisher
give me your oppinion
I think ur right on man. someone posted Gonzaga... hes not much higher than gatekeeper but not keeper in my mind. Hes like the butler,,, opens the door after the kepper lets him in lol
someone also put stevenson...?? give the guy some more losses before hes relegated to keeper status... Hes like a 2-3 bad fights away from keeper. Id say the same with Guida and Karo. Close but not quite there... Thought keepers were ones that noobs cant beat and top dudes could... i dont see many noobs taking out Guida or Karo easily...
Last edited 8/26/08 11:24AM by stevenseagal
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Post #6 8/26/08 11:23:40AM
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wiggum
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top 10 fighters cant be gatekeepers...gatekeepers are usually veterens that have always been right there but never cracked the top 10....gonzaga is not close to a gatekeeper at all, he fought for the title just a year ago and has gone 1-1 since....kongo is still on the rise so hes no gatekeeper...franklin, argubly the best the middleweight in the world not name silva or henderson a gatekeeper? thats just koo koo talk right there....two years ago he was considered unstoppable.....parisyan is no gate keeper either, hes still top 10 and just cuz you get knocked out by a guy that is top 5 and one win away from a title shot does not regulate you to gatekeeper, hes still young enough and not that many wins away from a title shot.....stevenson a gatekeeper is koo koo as well....he just fought for the title last january and won his fight against a legit guy since then, hes top 10 and most likely will fight for the title again someday........bottom line is that just cuz a guy loses a title shot or his title doesnt mean hes a gatekeeper and usually when it is that case, its far removed from theyre heyday and at the end of theyre career
my list (ufc list)
hw- herring
lhw-tito ortiz or james irvin
mw-ivan salvarry or jason mcdonald
ww-chris lytle
lw-din thomas or rich clementi
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Post #7 8/26/08 11:44:55AM
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StevenSeagal
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Career record: 105-56
Season: 48-22 (#510)
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Posted by wiggum
top 10 fighters cant be gatekeepers...gatekeepers are usually veterens that have always been right there but never cracked the top 10....gonzaga is not close to a gatekeeper at all, he fought for the title just a year ago and has gone 1-1 since....kongo is still on the rise so hes no gatekeeper...franklin, argubly the best the middleweight in the world not name silva or henderson a gatekeeper? thats just koo koo talk right there....two years ago he was considered unstoppable.....parisyan is no gate keeper either, hes still top 10 and just cuz you get knocked out by a guy that is top 5 and one win away from a title shot does not regulate you to gatekeeper, hes still young enough and not that many wins away from a title shot.....stevenson a gatekeeper is koo koo as well....he just fought for the title last january and won his fight against a legit guy since then, hes top 10 and most likely will fight for the title again someday........bottom line is that just cuz a guy loses a title shot or his title doesnt mean hes a gatekeeper and usually when it is that case, its far removed from theyre heyday and at the end of theyre career
my list (ufc list)
hw- herring
lhw-tito ortiz or james irvin
mw-ivan salvarry or jason mcdonald
ww-chris lytle
lw-din thomas or rich clementi
True dat
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Post #8 8/26/08 11:52:50AM
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Tein_Lung
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I love how people say Rich is a gatekeeper for MW, hes the number 2, no-one at MW can beat him but anderson, that does not make him a gatekeeper
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Post #9 8/26/08 1:54:20PM
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Career record: 76-37
Season: 38-15 (#3325)
Location: FL
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Posted by wiggum
top 10 fighters cant be gatekeepers...gatekeepers are usually veterens that have always been right there but never cracked the top 10....gonzaga is not close to a gatekeeper at all, he fought for the title just a year ago and has gone 1-1 since....kongo is still on the rise so hes no gatekeeper...franklin, argubly the best the middleweight in the world not name silva or henderson a gatekeeper? thats just koo koo talk right there....two years ago he was considered unstoppable.....parisyan is no gate keeper either, hes still top 10 and just cuz you get knocked out by a guy that is top 5 and one win away from a title shot does not regulate you to gatekeeper, hes still young enough and not that many wins away from a title shot.....stevenson a gatekeeper is koo koo as well....he just fought for the title last january and won his fight against a legit guy since then, hes top 10 and most likely will fight for the title again someday........bottom line is that just cuz a guy loses a title shot or his title doesnt mean hes a gatekeeper and usually when it is that case, its far removed from theyre heyday and at the end of theyre career
my list (ufc list)
hw- herring
lhw-tito ortiz or james irvin
mw-ivan salvarry or jason mcdonald
ww-chris lytle
lw-din thomas or rich clementi
perfecto
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Post #10 8/26/08 2:42:53PM
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Career record: 134-73
Season: 50-20 (#178)
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Posted by wiggum
top 10 fighters cant be gatekeepers...gatekeepers are usually veterens that have always been right there but never cracked the top 10....gonzaga is not close to a gatekeeper at all, he fought for the title just a year ago and has gone 1-1 since....kongo is still on the rise so hes no gatekeeper...franklin, argubly the best the middleweight in the world not name silva or henderson a gatekeeper? thats just koo koo talk right there....two years ago he was considered unstoppable.....parisyan is no gate keeper either, hes still top 10 and just cuz you get knocked out by a guy that is top 5 and one win away from a title shot does not regulate you to gatekeeper, hes still young enough and not that many wins away from a title shot.....stevenson a gatekeeper is koo koo as well....he just fought for the title last january and won his fight against a legit guy since then, hes top 10 and most likely will fight for the title again someday........bottom line is that just cuz a guy loses a title shot or his title doesnt mean hes a gatekeeper and usually when it is that case, its far removed from theyre heyday and at the end of theyre career
my list (ufc list)
hw- herring
lhw-tito ortiz or james irvin
mw-ivan salvarry or jason mcdonald
ww-chris lytle
lw-din thomas or rich clementi
i agree with you wholeheartedly on Rich Franklin. the number 3 MW in the world can't be a gatekeeper, i mean if he was there would only be 2 other guys to pass through "the gate". i also agree with you on the other points you made. however i have some points to make on your list.
1) Ortiz is not there anymore, however, i think Irvin is a good gatekeeper
2) Ivan retired, but again i think you nailed it on the head with MacDonald
3) Din is also not there anymore, but once again you nailed it on Clementi
Great list and i think you got all the right names.
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Post #11 8/26/08 5:26:34PM
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mrkennedy
Belt Contender
Career record: 163-79
Season: 51-19 (#168)
Location: montreal
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Posted by Tein_Lung
I love how people say Rich is a gatekeeper for MW, hes the number 2, no-one at MW can beat him but anderson, that does not make him a gatekeeper
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Post #12 8/26/08 6:55:39PM
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Career record: 140-79
Season: 44-26 (#1565)
Location: Paradise City, Gatineau, Québec
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Posted by wiggum
my list (ufc list)
hw- herring
lhw-tito ortiz or james irvin
mw-ivan salvarry or jason mcdonald
ww-chris lytle
lw-din thomas or rich clementi
3 things... - ortiz is gone
- din thomas is gone
-salavery retired
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Post #13 8/26/08 7:01:20PM
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GREENMAN!!!!
Career record: 134-73
Season: 50-20 (#178)
Location: selden, new york
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Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
Posted by wiggum
my list (ufc list)
hw- herring
lhw-tito ortiz or james irvin
mw-ivan salvarry or jason mcdonald
ww-chris lytle
lw-din thomas or rich clementi
3 things... - ortiz is gone
- din thomas is gone
-salavery retired
look at my post above
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Post #14 8/26/08 7:20:32PM
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Career record: 222-123
Season: 45-25 (#854)
Location: Pennsylvania
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HW-Herring
LHW-Irvin or Nakamura <---Not sure if he is gone or not but hes still listed on the UFC website.
MW-Doerksen
WW-Lytle or Marcus Davis<--Mainly because i never thought he was top ten worthy.
LW-Gurgel and Clementi
Last edited 8/26/08 8:23PM by 40ouncetofreedom
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