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Hammer of the Gods
Career record: 218-128
Season: 50-20 (#185)
Location: Hudson, NH
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On Sept. 20th, there are two MMA events going on. One is Cage Rage and the other is a Strikeforce event. Now, we've featured both in the past, but their undercards are generally very one sided or two complete unknowns going at it, and Strikeforce has trouble keeping their cards together. so, what we were thinking is to combine both cards into one "event" for secondary league with the cut off time being before whatever event happens first and results posted after the other event ends. In doing this we're only using the main cards from both fights and leaving off the undercard. As of right now, it looks like this:
James Thompson vs. Piotr Kusmierz
Ross Pointon vs. Che Mills (For the British WW title)
Leigh Remedios vs. Robbie Olivier (For the British FW title)
Antanas Jazbutis vs. Brad Pickett
Kaziao Misaki vs. Joe Riggs
Babalu vs. Bobby Southworth (For Strikeforce LHW title)
Josh Thompson vs. TBA (For the Strikeforce LW title)
Billy Evangelista vs TBA
Trevor Prangley vs TBA
Is this something you guys would like to have featured?
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Post #1 8/20/08 10:52:53PM
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tepid55
In Full Mount
Career record: 215-123
Season: 43-27 (#1095)
Location: Texas
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I think it's a great idea.
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Post #2 8/20/08 11:11:29PM
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The Axe Kick Murderer
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Career record: 159-78
Season: 51-19 (#39)
Location: who's asking?
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I'm for it.
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Post #3 8/20/08 11:13:39PM
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GREENMAN!!!!
Career record: 134-73
Season: 50-20 (#178)
Location: selden, new york
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i'm on board
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Post #4 8/20/08 11:14:24PM
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SUUUUUUUUGAR
Career record: 140-79
Season: 44-26 (#1565)
Location: Paradise City, Gatineau, Québec
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I predict 0% no , awesome idea
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Post #5 8/20/08 11:31:22PM
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The Axe Kick Murderer
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Career record: 159-78
Season: 51-19 (#39)
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Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
I predict 0% no , awesome idea
Judging from you avatar, you predicting skills aren't very good
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Post #6 8/20/08 11:32:19PM
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Mchubb316
MMA Sensei
Career record: 217-120
Season: 45-25 (#1353)
Location: Southern Oregon
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I think it is a great idea. Keep up the good work.
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Post #7 8/20/08 11:36:02PM
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Have it!!!
Career record: 136-71
Season: 43-27 (#735)
Location: Newcastle, UK
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Aye good idea. Its almost impossible to even research some of the guys fighting on the undercards of these events.
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Post #8 8/20/08 11:50:43PM
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wrestler189
MMA Regular
Career record: 231-115
Season: 52-18 (#81)
Location: Atlanta
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I disagree
I like researching the relatively unknown guys. makes the game more interesting
why not include both and make picks for both like a normal event, just on the same night? restrict betting to one or the other
that would be fair imo.
and very rarely can nothing be found. if you do the right research you can almost always find information on every guy on a card
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Post #9 8/21/08 12:53:19AM
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Ridin the MMA WW since 02 !
Career record: 157-77
Season: 53-17 (#2)
Location: Long Beach
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Posted by wrestler189
I disagree
I like researching the relatively unknown guys. makes the game more interesting
why not include both and make picks for both like a normal event, just on the same night? restrict betting to one or the other
that would be fair imo.
and very rarely can nothing be found. if you do the right research you can almost always find information on every guy on a card
Just because I have an edge because I know most, if not all guys on the Undercard, but hey I'm up for it
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Post #10 8/21/08 12:57:49AM
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Hammer of the Gods
Career record: 218-128
Season: 50-20 (#185)
Location: Hudson, NH
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There are several problems with running these events seperately:
1. You can only bet on one event at a time, so whatever event goes first is the one you bet on, and the other is left out. A lot can change in the wagers over one event and someone is always unhappy with this.
2. Whoever gets in the top spots in the first event don't even get to see their names up on the board because the other event bumps it.
3. While you can usually find stuff on the undercards, sometimes the undercard fights are guys who are 1-0, 1-1, etc and its a coin toss as to who will win. Generally because of that, the fight ends up being the hot bout, and then its a really important coin toss. The hot bouts are supposed to break up the scoring and highlight fights that are stylistically odd or just razor close, to show whos paying attention to the trends in MMA. If every bout on the card is decently competative, the hot bout is bound to be something interesting.
4. With smaller events, it takes a long time to look up the unknown fighters and get an idea of who will take it. While some people don't mind this, some guys don't have hours and hours to dedicate to watching footage of a guy they've never heard of, and probably never will see again. The secondary league is hard enough without that.
Overall I think this is the best way to handle the smaller orgs with inconsistant cards. Its too bad the EXC event got cancelled on the same day or we could have had a triple header, but we'll see how this goes. If it goes well, maybe we can smash together a few other events in the near future.
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All brave men with hearts of war, ride the path of mighty Thor.
MMAplaygrounds resident gun nut.
DREAM 1 - 2nd in Points
Cage Rage 23 - 6th in Points
DREAM 2 -6th in Points
Secondary League Season 3 - 12th in Points
UFC 89 - 15th in Points
IFL - New Jersey - 18th in Points
Affliction: Banned - 18th in Wagers
Ultimate Fighter 7 Finale - 20th in Wagers
EXC: Kimbo vs. Tank - 26th in Wagers
Secondary League Season 1 - 31st in Points
Secondary League Season 4 - 50th in Points
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Post #11 8/21/08 4:49:42AM
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Free Kracker Please
Career record: 115-64
Season: 45-24 (#281)
Location: 360 Washington State
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Posted by Svartorm
There are several problems with running these events seperately:
1. You can only bet on one event at a time, so whatever event goes first is the one you bet on, and the other is left out. A lot can change in the wagers over one event and someone is always unhappy with this.
2. Whoever gets in the top spots in the first event don't even get to see their names up on the board because the other event bumps it.
3. While you can usually find stuff on the undercards, sometimes the undercard fights are guys who are 1-0, 1-1, etc and its a coin toss as to who will win. Generally because of that, the fight ends up being the hot bout, and then its a really important coin toss. The hot bouts are supposed to break up the scoring and highlight fights that are stylistically odd or just razor close, to show whos paying attention to the trends in MMA. If every bout on the card is decently competative, the hot bout is bound to be something interesting.
4. With smaller events, it takes a long time to look up the unknown fighters and get an idea of who will take it. While some people don't mind this, some guys don't have hours and hours to dedicate to watching footage of a guy they've never heard of, and probably never will see again. The secondary league is hard enough without that.
Overall I think this is the best way to handle the smaller orgs with inconsistant cards. Its too bad the EXC event got cancelled on the same day or we could have had a triple header, but we'll see how this goes. If it goes well, maybe we can smash together a few other events in the near future.
Super Idea Props to you
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Post #12 8/21/08 7:46:55PM
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SUUUUUUUUGAR
Career record: 140-79
Season: 44-26 (#1565)
Location: Paradise City, Gatineau, Québec
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Posted by juanez13
Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
I predict 0% no , awesome idea
Judging from you avatar, you predicting skills aren't very good
hahahaha I just got burned by andy hug 
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Post #13 8/21/08 8:02:04PM
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The Axe Kick Murderer
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Career record: 159-78
Season: 51-19 (#39)
Location: who's asking?
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Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
Posted by juanez13
Posted by D0wnUnd6e6r
I predict 0% no , awesome idea
Judging from you avatar, you predicting skills aren't very good
hahahaha I just got burned by andy hug
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Post #14 8/21/08 8:18:24PM
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wrestler189
MMA Regular
Career record: 231-115
Season: 52-18 (#81)
Location: Atlanta
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Posted by Svartorm
There are several problems with running these events seperately:
1. You can only bet on one event at a time, so whatever event goes first is the one you bet on, and the other is left out. A lot can change in the wagers over one event and someone is always unhappy with this.
2. Whoever gets in the top spots in the first event don't even get to see their names up on the board because the other event bumps it.
3. While you can usually find stuff on the undercards, sometimes the undercard fights are guys who are 1-0, 1-1, etc and its a coin toss as to who will win. Generally because of that, the fight ends up being the hot bout, and then its a really important coin toss. The hot bouts are supposed to break up the scoring and highlight fights that are stylistically odd or just razor close, to show whos paying attention to the trends in MMA. If every bout on the card is decently competative, the hot bout is bound to be something interesting.
4. With smaller events, it takes a long time to look up the unknown fighters and get an idea of who will take it. While some people don't mind this, some guys don't have hours and hours to dedicate to watching footage of a guy they've never heard of, and probably never will see again. The secondary league is hard enough without that.
Overall I think this is the best way to handle the smaller orgs with inconsistant cards. Its too bad the EXC event got cancelled on the same day or we could have had a triple header, but we'll see how this goes. If it goes well, maybe we can smash together a few other events in the near future.
2 doesnt really matter. You will get a ribbon anyways.
3. just because a guy doesnt have a lot of fights doesnt mean itsa coin toss. there is a reason that people pick one or the other. there is still research to be done.
4. so you are willing to penalize the people who spend the time doing the research for the sake of people who dont do the research? that doesnt make much sense to me.
I dont understand why you would penalize players who do their research. what percenatege of the people who dont have time to do research would do the research assuming they had the time? not to mention a large percentage of the secondary league doesnt pick every event anyways.
Im not following your logic. you seem to be favoring certain players over others by changing your procedure for the convenience of those who for whatever reason dont do the research of others.
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Post #15 8/22/08 12:34:42AM
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