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Bull Ropes and BS: 'Respect' and Other Fan Foolery
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MMeh?
Career record: 120-71
Season: 29-17 (#3866)
Location: vancouver
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funny... i've been reading and not posting for a solid 5 months now.. but this brought me outta the wood work.. Lesnar will need to change his attitude before I ever cheer for him again. I bet on him against mir, and i bet on him against herring... and I've been telling a lot of people who werent sure about his talents that he was the real deal.. that he just needed the time and training to sucessfully transition his skills to mma. I still think that he's a top contender at HW and is realistically a top10 in the world after only 1 significant win and a loss to a contender. Despite all that, I dont think that his antics during the end of the fight and during the post fight interview can be evenly compared to any other fight antics in the ufc's recent history. Silva... as humble and respect as he is at most times... he has his cocky moments.. but you respect that because he is so damn good and he does show so much humility 99% of the time. The closest comparison that you can make is probably to tito's grave digging routine after whooping shamrock. Some found that funny, some found that disrespectful but i personally find that riding your opponent in a humiliating fashion for the final seconds of the fight is considerably worse. There's a line that most people draw for during and post fight antics.. and for me lesnar crossed the line on one and then the other.
Here's what i reminded many of my friends watching that fight.. Lesnar is 1 - 1 in the ufc. When silva danced around franklin's flurry of strikes in their second fight with the crazy head movement.. it was a little flashy.. but you know what? silva is the no1 mw in the world and at least p4p the no2 fighter in the world... so you know what, like it or not, he deserves that breathing room. Lesnar almost had his foot snapped off by a fighter who was a .500 fighter in his last 4 and needed 6 months to prep for his next fight so he wouldnt get whooped again. Congrats for getting your first W against a real opponent, but he was dancing around like he had just beat fedor straight outta the WWE when in reality he won a solid decision over another fighter who was .500 in his last 4. If lesnar was as dominant of a fighter as he is in his own mind, that fight wouldnt've lasted past the first round... i've never seen a wrestler lose the mount so easily so many times in one fight
Right now, in my mind, lesnar brought all the best from NCAA's div 1 wrestling, and all the worst from the WWE
if you wanna be a dick, save it for when you're not a .500 fighter
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Post #16 8/12/08 12:24:21AM
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BIGKAT
MMA Regular
Career record: 156-102
Season: 26-21 (#4417)
Location: World Wide
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Posted by wapttn
funny... i've been reading and not posting for a solid 5 months now.. but this brought me outta the wood work.. Lesnar will need to change his attitude before I ever cheer for him again. I bet on him against mir, and i bet on him against herring... and I've been telling a lot of people who werent sure about his talents that he was the real deal.. that he just needed the time and training to sucessfully transition his skills to mma. I still think that he's a top contender at HW and is realistically a top10 in the world after only 1 significant win and a loss to a contender. Despite all that, I dont think that his antics during the end of the fight and during the post fight interview can be evenly compared to any other fight antics in the ufc's recent history. Silva... as humble and respect as he is at most times... he has his cocky moments.. but you respect that because he is so damn good and he does show so much humility 99% of the time. The closest comparison that you can make is probably to tito's grave digging routine after whooping shamrock. Some found that funny, some found that disrespectful but i personally find that riding your opponent in a humiliating fashion for the final seconds of the fight is considerably worse. There's a line that most people draw for during and post fight antics.. and for me lesnar crossed the line on one and then the other.
Here's what i reminded many of my friends watching that fight.. Lesnar is 1 - 1 in the ufc. When silva danced around franklin's flurry of strikes in their second fight with the crazy head movement.. it was a little flashy.. but you know what? silva is the no1 mw in the world and at least p4p the no2 fighter in the world... so you know what, like it or not, he deserves that breathing room. Lesnar almost had his foot snapped off by a fighter who was a .500 fighter in his last 4 and needed 6 months to prep for his next fight so he wouldnt get whooped again. Congrats for getting your first W against a real opponent, but he was dancing around like he had just beat fedor straight outta the WWE when in reality he won a solid decision over another fighter who was .500 in his last 4. If lesnar was as dominant of a fighter as he is in his own mind, that fight wouldnt've lasted past the first round... i've never seen a wrestler lose the mount so easily so many times in one fight
Right now, in my mind, lesnar brought all the best from NCAA's div 1 wrestling, and all the worst from the WWE
if you wanna be a dick, save it for when you're not a .500 fighter
PROPS!!! EXACTLY!!
Nuff Said, we can close this thread now ;^)
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Post #17 8/12/08 1:06:36PM
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crushedbacon
MMA Regular
Career record: 169-100
Season: 37-26 (#2734)
Location: Lethbridge
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Posted by wapttn
funny... i've been reading and not posting for a solid 5 months now.. but this brought me outta the wood work.. Lesnar will need to change his attitude before I ever cheer for him again. I bet on him against mir, and i bet on him against herring... and I've been telling a lot of people who werent sure about his talents that he was the real deal.. that he just needed the time and training to sucessfully transition his skills to mma. I still think that he's a top contender at HW and is realistically a top10 in the world after only 1 significant win and a loss to a contender. Despite all that, I dont think that his antics during the end of the fight and during the post fight interview can be evenly compared to any other fight antics in the ufc's recent history. Silva... as humble and respect as he is at most times... he has his cocky moments.. but you respect that because he is so damn good and he does show so much humility 99% of the time. The closest comparison that you can make is probably to tito's grave digging routine after whooping shamrock. Some found that funny, some found that disrespectful but i personally find that riding your opponent in a humiliating fashion for the final seconds of the fight is considerably worse. There's a line that most people draw for during and post fight antics.. and for me lesnar crossed the line on one and then the other.
Here's what i reminded many of my friends watching that fight.. Lesnar is 1 - 1 in the ufc. When silva danced around franklin's flurry of strikes in their second fight with the crazy head movement.. it was a little flashy.. but you know what? silva is the no1 mw in the world and at least p4p the no2 fighter in the world... so you know what, like it or not, he deserves that breathing room. Lesnar almost had his foot snapped off by a fighter who was a .500 fighter in his last 4 and needed 6 months to prep for his next fight so he wouldnt get whooped again. Congrats for getting your first W against a real opponent, but he was dancing around like he had just beat fedor straight outta the WWE when in reality he won a solid decision over another fighter who was .500 in his last 4. If lesnar was as dominant of a fighter as he is in his own mind, that fight wouldnt've lasted past the first round... i've never seen a wrestler lose the mount so easily so many times in one fight
Right now, in my mind, lesnar brought all the best from NCAA's div 1 wrestling, and all the worst from the WWE
if you wanna be a dick, save it for when you're not a .500 fighter
Yep that's about the size of it. "Showing another competitor up" in any sport isn't cool. Especially in combat sports where by just competing both fighters show a tremendous amount of heart and are risking a lot. Therefore each should realize the nature of their sport and with that a mutual respect should develop. MLB comparison......a rookie comes in and hits a jack of an established veteran pitcher and stands at home plate stares and then begins the slow trot.....ya doesn't happen. "Showing up" competition is taboo among the actual athletes.....but if your a casual couch potato fan some may think its pretty cool.
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Post #18 8/12/08 9:08:39PM
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