Cheick Kongo Going A Bit Overboard? |
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kaduey
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Career record: 223-124
Season: 44-26 (#347)
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Posted by IriShame
Yeah, Kongo is a nobody. He would be sick in K-1 but he has no ground game at all. To big of a glaring flaw.
Heath Herring was beating Kongo on the feet. How do you suppose he'd do well in K-1?
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Post #16 8/11/08 2:40:06PM
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candynuts
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Career record: 113-76
Season: 46-24 (#628)
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Kongo is 5-2 in the UFC, he is big and strong and a good kickboxer. He mainly just has pure strength takedowns, but does not have good takedown defense. Im not much of a fan but he does appear to be improving, he looked really good against Evensen (who lets face it, was there to play the role of the sacrificial lamb). I do want to see Kongo fight a wrestler next, but I have a feeling that they will put him up against Eddie Sanchez.
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Post #17 8/11/08 2:57:10PM
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Laying down the beats
Career record: 192-150
Season: 37-33 (#1810)
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Posted by candynuts
Kongo is 5-2 in the UFC, he is big and strong and a good kickboxer. He mainly just has pure strength takedowns, but does not have good takedown defense. Im not much of a fan but he does appear to be improving, he looked really good against Evensen (who lets face it, was there to play the role of the sacrificial lamb). I do want to see Kongo fight a wrestler next, but I have a feeling that they will put him up against Eddie Sanchez.
I think it depends on whether the UFC wants to keep him around. Honestly, if the don't like his attitude I see him being fed to the wolves. However, if they do want to keep him, he will have to take on a wrester eventually (and before a title shot) if he want's a title shot.
As for his 5-2 record, most of his wins are against guys that have poor records against upper tier fighters (basically anyone in Pride or the UFC) and his losses weren't exactly to top 10 fighters either. Cro Cop was his only big win and that was tainted with groin shots. The guy is far from a title shot.
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Post #18 8/11/08 3:32:50PM
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ziegler3334
MMA Regular
Career record: 44-15
Season: 44-15 (#1271)
Location: Ohio
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I'm going to agree with seemingly everyone else here and say kongo is no where near a title shot. thats ridiculous. even in the weak hw ufc devision. werdum, mir, lesnar, velasquez, at least.
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Post #19 8/11/08 4:39:31PM
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candynuts
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Posted by Rush
I think it depends on whether the UFC wants to keep him around. Honestly, if the don't like his attitude I see him being fed to the wolves. However, if they do want to keep him, he will have to take on a wrester eventually (and before a title shot) if he want's a title shot.
As for his 5-2 record, most of his wins are against guys that have poor records against upper tier fighters (basically anyone in Pride or the UFC) and his losses weren't exactly to top 10 fighters either. Cro Cop was his only big win and that was tainted with groin shots. The guy is far from a title shot.
True, but to be honest, I do not know of too many wolves that are in the UFC Heavyweight division. And in his losses in the UFC he has not necessarily been flat out beaten (Split Decisioned in 2 fights). I would like to see him fight Gonzaga and watch him get humiliated as he gets taken down and submitted, but I dont think he fights him and instead fights a standup fighter. (I think Lesnar/Gonzaga would be the bigger/better fight).
He is pretty recognizable based on his fighting style and appearance, but like you said his attitude sucks. I still think that the UFC should try to keep a hold of him.. well frankly because the UFC's talent pool of HWY's is pretty limited, and losing a guy like Kongo eliminates even more matchups.
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Post #20 8/11/08 6:05:51PM
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tylerlee123
Standup Guy
Career record: 118-61
Season: 38-22 (#2457)
Location: New Brunswick
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I dont know, i dont mind Kongo he has improved, i think he was just a little pissed that he didn't get a well established opponent
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Post #21 8/11/08 6:07:20PM
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bls1919
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Career record: 155-90
Season: 48-19 (#352)
Location: Clarendon, PENNSYLVANNIA
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I think either Velesquez or Lesnar should be his next oppenents if he is getting bored. He is the one everyone should be pissed at being dissrespectful not Brock. He totally snubbed the UFC and left Rogan with his dick in the wind. Total BS. At least shout out to your sponsers, WTF.
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Post #22 8/11/08 7:17:36PM
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Laying down the beats
Career record: 192-150
Season: 37-33 (#1810)
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Posted by candynuts
True, but to be honest, I do not know of too many wolves that are in the UFC Heavyweight division. And in his losses in the UFC he has not necessarily been flat out beaten (Split Decisioned in 2 fights). I would like to see him fight Gonzaga and watch him get humiliated as he gets taken down and submitted, but I dont think he fights him and instead fights a standup fighter. (I think Lesnar/Gonzaga would be the bigger/better fight).
Yeah, there isn't much left in the HW division. I would consider any good grappler and/or wrestler, expecially one that is strong (Lesnar, Cain, Gonzaga) to be able to pwn him on the ground. With the way Kongo has been talking I wonder if he will be around much longer unless he beats some top talent and I just don't see that happening considering most of the UFC's top HW are very talented grapplers.
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Post #23 8/11/08 7:21:15PM
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