'Next Big Thing' Lesnar well on his way |
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nastshabast
In Full Mount
Career record: 159-92
Season: 41-25 (#1271)
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Post #1 8/10/08 1:58:05PM
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chronic
Career record: 128-95
Season: 37-30 (#2734)
Location: Northern Kentucky
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Lesnar looked awesome. I was totally impressed. If only he had beaten Mir. I hate pro-wrestling. Hate it with a passion. But I think this guy has the goods. He's a monster.
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Post #2 8/10/08 2:16:52PM
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MMAcca
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 176-94
Season: 46-24 (#607)
Location: North East of England
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The next Fedor!!........
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Post #3 8/10/08 2:40:31PM
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nastshabast
In Full Mount
Career record: 159-92
Season: 41-25 (#1271)
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Posted by colescar
Lesnar looked awesome. I was totally impressed. If only he had beaten Mir. I hate pro-wrestling. Hate it with a passion. But I think this guy has the goods. He's a monster.
Ya it's too bad that Brock will always have the WWE stigma attached to him. I wonder if he had fought Herring then Mir if the results would have been different.
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Post #4 8/10/08 2:44:38PM
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The Origional Playground Bully
Career record: 181-100
Season: 51-19 (#22)
Location: Minnesota
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We'll call this my public apology to Mr. Lesnar. I was wrong about the fact that he won't gas. And looking back on it, the MMAth was right there all along. That was the same Heath Herring who had nothing at all to offer against O'Brien. I don't know why I was thinking that Brock couldn't have the same wrestler's success.
I will say this though. Brock needs to be kidnapped an taken to striking school. His mechanics are god aweful! I wasn't particularly impressed with his ground control either. It was sloppy, and would never work against a submission threat. But that shouldn't take anything away from his fight with Herring. He did exactly what he needed to do to win. With the weak HW division in the UFC, he can probably string together a few more wins without any polish at all. If he can improve his technique moving forward he'll be a contender. (I think I just threw up in my mouth.)
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And as El Guapo always says- "God speed, and party on. Whoap!"
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Post #5 8/10/08 2:46:07PM
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nickcuc547
MMA Sensei
Career record: 219-128
Season: 45-25 (#813)
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Posted by bojangalz
We'll call this my public apology to Mr. Lesnar. I was wrong about the fact that he won't gas. And looking back on it, the MMAth was right there all along. That was the same Heath Herring who had nothing at all to offer against O'Brien. I don't know why I was thinking that Brock couldn't have the same wrestler's success.
I will say this though. Brock needs to be kidnapped an taken to striking school. His mechanics are god aweful! I wasn't particularly impressed with his ground control either. It was sloppy, and would never work against a submission threat. But that shouldn't take anything away from his fight with Herring. He did exactly what he needed to do to win. With the weak HW division in the UFC, he can probably string together a few more wins without any polish at all. If he can improve his technique moving forward he'll be a contender. (I think I just threw up in my mouth.)
ya brock didn't gas at all, he looked fresh in the third. agree he is raw with his striking but he will get better, he has some great power, if he polishes his strikes he could have some big knockouts.
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Post #6 8/10/08 3:11:22PM
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Go Giants!!!!!
Career record: 214-123
Season: 42-28 (#628)
Location: The Jersey Shore!!!!!!!
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He needs major improvement on his JJ. There were so many times when he should have had the hooks in but he didn't go for it. Just inexperience. In time he will dominate and his power is just awesome. Please let him fight Kongo
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Why don't you just sit there and bleed awhile before you taste yourself some real pain!!!!!!!
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Post #7 8/10/08 3:46:50PM
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Trench777
MMA Regular
Career record: 169-139
Season: 34-29 (#3351)
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I looked up Lay & Pray in the MMA-tionary & found a picture of Brock Lesnar. Can't believe everone piles on other wrestlers for this tactic, but this palooka gets a free pass? Was the most boring fight of all the ones broadcast last night, by a -big- margin. All he showed me was he could lay on top of an opponent for like 13 minutes with extremely little control, without attempting any submissions or attempting to gain better position. Big, heavy freaking hands, tho! If he learns how to strike he'll KTFO some guys too stupid/slow to get out of his way.
He's also the most classless asshole I've seen, maybe ever in MMA. His post-fight antics & statements would have made Tito Ortiz embarressed for him. Compare his bullshit with GSP/Fitch's postgame regard for each other for reference purposes. Smack talk pre-fight is almost expected...disrespecting your opponent post-fight to the level Brock took it just makes you look like a petty, wind-bag dick. Win a fight that required you doing something other than laying on a weaker guy for 13 mintues before you do your little lasso mime act, dumb ass.
Weak sauce.
T777
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Post #8 8/10/08 3:47:53PM
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dinex
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 212-108
Season: 54-16 (#3)
Location: Oslo, Norway
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Even though he looked good against Herring it's just dumb to claim that Lesnar unquestionable will be the next big thing. We still don't know if he will ever be able to hang with guys who have great submission grappling like Minotauro or Werdum. And as of right now Cain Velasquez has impressed me much more as a heavyweight prospect. But I guess you can't expect more from Iole.
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Post #9 8/10/08 3:50:22PM
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The-Don
In Full Mount
Career record: 107-88
Season: 40-30 (#1957)
Location: TN
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Posted by Trench777
I looked up Lay & Pray in the MMA-tionary & found a picture of Brock Lesnar. Can't believe everone piles on other wrestlers for this tactic, but this palooka gets a free pass? Was the most boring fight of all the ones broadcast last night, by a -big- margin. All he showed me was he could lay on top of an opponent for like 13 minutes with extremely little control, without attempting any submissions or attempting to gain better position. Big, heavy freaking hands, tho! If he learns how to strike he'll KTFO some guys too stupid/slow to get out of his way.
He's also the most classless asshole I've seen, maybe ever in MMA. His post-fight antics & statements would have made Tito Ortiz embarressed for him. Compare his bullshit with GSP/Fitch's postgame regard for each other for reference purposes. Smack talk pre-fight is almost expected...disrespecting your opponent post-fight to the level Brock took it just makes you look like a petty, wind-bag dick. Win a fight that required you doing something other than laying on a weaker guy for 13 mintues before you do your little lasso mime act, dumb ass.
Weak sauce.
T777
I did not hear what Lesnar said, but from All herring was saying prior to the fight It was almost deserved... Herring talked alot of trash and from what I recall prior to the fight brock was fairly quite in comparrison... True in bad taste.. I think we can chalk that up again to a bit of rookie-ness and too much time in the WWE.. I think as Brock gets more comfortable his antics will come down...
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Post #10 8/10/08 5:11:17PM
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Career record: 121-59
Season: 55-15 (#42)
Location: Massachusetts
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He looked awesome. I just wish Heath didn't bury his head on the mat to avoid strikes. It seemed like even the little pop shots were busting Herring's face open. He knew Brock wasn't looking for a choke so he continuously rolled to his stomach. This is where the rules really get in the way. No knees to the head just create stalemates.
Brock is for real. A lot of guys are going to have trouble with him. The guys that do for submissions are going to open themselves up for a lot of punishment.
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Post #11 8/10/08 5:19:05PM
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Go Giants!!!!!
Career record: 214-123
Season: 42-28 (#628)
Location: The Jersey Shore!!!!!!!
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Posted by Trench777
I looked up Lay & Pray in the MMA-tionary & found a picture of Brock Lesnar. Can't believe everone piles on other wrestlers for this tactic, but this palooka gets a free pass? Was the most boring fight of all the ones broadcast last night, by a -big- margin. All he showed me was he could lay on top of an opponent for like 13 minutes with extremely little control, without attempting any submissions or attempting to gain better position. Big, heavy freaking hands, tho! If he learns how to strike he'll KTFO some guys too stupid/slow to get out of his way.
He's also the most classless asshole I've seen, maybe ever in MMA. His post-fight antics & statements would have made Tito Ortiz embarressed for him. Compare his bullshit with GSP/Fitch's postgame regard for each other for reference purposes. Smack talk pre-fight is almost expected...disrespecting your opponent post-fight to the level Brock took it just makes you look like a petty, wind-bag dick. Win a fight that required you doing something other than laying on a weaker guy for 13 mintues before you do your little lasso mime act, dumb ass.
Weak sauce.
T777
No why is it ok for Herring to think fighting Brock is a step down for him and saying so to Dana. Yet he goes out and gets smashed by the guy. In time he will be much improved and atleast he's fighting top guys not chumps
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Why don't you just sit there and bleed awhile before you taste yourself some real pain!!!!!!!
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Post #12 8/10/08 5:46:57PM
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casey64
MMA Sensei
Career record: 155-93
Season: 44-25 (#2004)
Location: Football Field
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Posted by Porch28
He needs major improvement on his JJ. There were so many times when he should have had the hooks in but he didn't go for it. Just inexperience. In time he will dominate and his power is just awesome. Please let him fight Kongo
I agree, he needs some improvements, but overall I think he did good, and yes put the battle of the muscles in there. Lesnar vs.Kongo.
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Post #13 8/10/08 5:51:44PM
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Go Giants!!!!!
Career record: 214-123
Season: 42-28 (#628)
Location: The Jersey Shore!!!!!!!
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Kongo couldn't stop Herrings take downs there is no way he can stop Lesnar's
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Why don't you just sit there and bleed awhile before you taste yourself some real pain!!!!!!!
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Post #14 8/10/08 5:59:57PM
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Season: 47-23 (#510)
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Posted by Trench777
I looked up Lay & Pray in the MMA-tionary & found a picture of Brock Lesnar. Can't believe everone piles on other wrestlers for this tactic, but this palooka gets a free pass? Was the most boring fight of all the ones broadcast last night, by a -big- margin. All he showed me was he could lay on top of an opponent for like 13 minutes with extremely little control, without attempting any submissions or attempting to gain better position. Big, heavy freaking hands, tho! If he learns how to strike he'll KTFO some guys too stupid/slow to get out of his way.
He's also the most classless asshole I've seen, maybe ever in MMA. His post-fight antics & statements would have made Tito Ortiz embarressed for him. Compare his bullshit with GSP/Fitch's postgame regard for each other for reference purposes. Smack talk pre-fight is almost expected...disrespecting your opponent post-fight to the level Brock took it just makes you look like a petty, wind-bag dick. Win a fight that required you doing something other than laying on a weaker guy for 13 mintues before you do your little lasso mime act, dumb ass.
Weak sauce.
T777
Say all you want it was the guys third fight ever. He was cautious which after his last fight he needed to be.The next thing I write I will put in bold.
Stop the take down and you don't have to deal with it.
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