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Career record: 189-104
Season: 49-21 (#388)
Location: Where the Tall Corn Grows
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I was looking at my LW rankings and realized that I have more LWs in there who are not part of the UFC than in the UFC. It's close, at 6-4 but this goes against most peoples assumption that the UFC holds the best fighters in every division besides HW.
To be fair, my top two spots are held by UFC fighters. The other UFC spots are 9-10. Also, if I expand my ranking to the top 20 then it becomes a majority for the UFC.
My Top 10 LWs:
BJ Penn
Sean Sherk
Eddie Alvarez
Shinya Aoki
JZ Calvancanti
Takanori Gomi
Tatsuya Kawaijiri
Joachim Hanson
Kenny Florian
Joe Stevenson
How does your LW rankings compare?
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#8 points Sengoku 5
#24 points DREAM 2
#50 earnings TUF 6 Finale
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Post #1 7/25/08 3:13:41PM
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Career record: 158-93
Season: 44-26 (#1016)
Location: Austin, TX
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I think Alvarez above Aoki is tough to justify. That is just my opinion. I know he has a win (albeit decision) over the guy who just KO'd Aoki, but that is sticky MMAth.
I also think Hansen and Kawaijiri would get dominated by Stevenson and Florian.
My opinion on JZ is mixed. I know he fought Aoki very well, but I wish he had some more big name wins.
Good list though. I would just flip some guys around.
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Post #2 7/25/08 3:26:21PM
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MMA Sensei
Career record: 221-124
Season: 45-23 (#281)
Location: In the cheap seats.
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I haven't done a Top 20 myself, but here's HDNet Fights "Inside MMA" Top 25. They have 10 UFC guys, only 2 of whom are in the Top 10. And I think some more of the IFL guys will crack this list once they start fighting people besides each other.
1 BJ Penn
2 Takanori Gomi
3 Eddie Alvarez
4 Tatsuya Kawajiri
5 Gesias Calvancante
6 Vitor Ribeiro
7 Sean Sherk
8 Josh Thomson
9 Joachim Hansen
10 Shinya Aoki
11 Gilbert Melendez
12 Mitsuhiro Ishida
13 Roger Huerta
14 Kenny Florian
15 Joe Stevenson
16 Tyson Griffin
17 Jamie Varner
18 Ryan Schultz
19 Gray Maynard
20 KJ Noons
21 Nick Diaz
22 Nate Diaz
23 Frank Edgar
24 Caol Uno
25 Spencer Fisher
Last edited 7/25/08 3:38PM by AchillesHeel
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Post #3 7/25/08 3:29:14PM
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Bowen50
In Full Mount
Career record: 161-98
Season: 43-27 (#832)
Location: Long Island, NY
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i have basically the same people just different spots
1) BJ Penn
2) Takinori Gomi
3) Eddie Alvarez
4) Sean Sherk
5) Shinya Aoki
6) JZ Cavalcanti
7) Joachim Hansen
8) Kenny Florian
9) Roger Huerta
10) Tatsuya Kawajiri
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Post #4 7/25/08 3:34:36PM
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MMA Sensei
Career record: 221-124
Season: 45-23 (#281)
Location: In the cheap seats.
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And here's the Fight Matrix Top 20. Note that Fight Matrix does not rank fighters by skill, it ranks them by points, which are accrued by winning fights. Still, it can reveal some names that you might not otherwise have thought of (Rodrigo Damm, anybody?).
1. Penn
2. Hansen
3. Gomi
4. Alvarez
5. Aoki
6. Calvancante
7. Florian
8. Griffin
9. Sherk
10. Huerta
11. Thomson
12. Edgar
13. Uno
14. Schultz
15. Stevenson
16. Ishida
17. Noons
18. Maynard
19. Damm
20. Kawajiri
Last edited 7/25/08 3:38PM by AchillesHeel
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Post #5 7/25/08 3:37:07PM
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Next WW Champ!
Career record: 156-95
Season: 41-29 (#2239)
Location: So Cal.
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Posted by ncordless
I was looking at my LW rankings and realized that I have more LWs in there who are not part of the UFC than in the UFC. It's close, at 6-4 but this goes against most peoples assumption that the UFC holds the best fighters in every division besides HW.
To be fair, my top two spots are held by UFC fighters. The other UFC spots are 9-10. Also, if I expand my ranking to the top 20 then it becomes a majority for the UFC.
My Top 10 LWs:
BJ Penn
Sean Sherk
Eddie Alvarez
Shinya Aoki
JZ Calvancanti
Takanori Gomi
Tatsuya Kawaijiri
Joachim Hanson
Kenny Florian
Joe Stevenson
How does your LW rankings compare?
ya I think sean sherk should be down at the bottom
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Post #6 7/25/08 4:08:06PM
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Santa Says: No Stampeding!
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Career record: 189-104
Season: 49-21 (#388)
Location: Where the Tall Corn Grows
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Posted by holt8081
Posted by ncordless
I was looking at my LW rankings and realized that I have more LWs in there who are not part of the UFC than in the UFC. It's close, at 6-4 but this goes against most peoples assumption that the UFC holds the best fighters in every division besides HW.
To be fair, my top two spots are held by UFC fighters. The other UFC spots are 9-10. Also, if I expand my ranking to the top 20 then it becomes a majority for the UFC.
My Top 10 LWs:
BJ Penn
Sean Sherk
Eddie Alvarez
Shinya Aoki
JZ Calvancanti
Takanori Gomi
Tatsuya Kawaijiri
Joachim Hanson
Kenny Florian
Joe Stevenson
How does your LW rankings compare?
ya I think sean sherk should be down at the bottom
I hear you. He hasn't done a whole lot in the LW division... but I'd favor him against the bottom four big time. Sherk could probably go anywhere between 2-6.
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#10 points EXC: Heat
#8 points Sengoku 5
#24 points DREAM 2
#50 earnings TUF 6 Finale
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Post #7 7/25/08 4:19:28PM
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I'm a LEAD FARMER MOTHA F*CKER
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Career record: 135-93
Season: 39-31 (#2217)
Location: Denver, Colorado Birthplace of the UFC
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I don't care if I get flamed but I think Sherk would rock Gomi's world if the fought
same goes with Aoki,JZ,Hanson,and Alvarez. I respect these fighter but watching them fight I couldn't see these guy being able to stop the little Shark from GnP any of them. and Im not huggin the UFC or anything cause DREAM rocked this weekendubt Sherk is vary good at 155
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Post #8 7/25/08 4:23:40PM
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Buddharox
MMA Regular
Career record: 178-107
Season: 24-16 (#4880)
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Rankings aren't determined by fantasy match-ups. Just because Sherk "could" beat those other guys doesn't mean you bump him up that high. Fact is, he lost to Penn and only had 2 other LW fights (when Florian was still pretty green). Good list though, besides Sherk being at the opposite end of where he should be.
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Post #9 7/25/08 4:25:48PM
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mrkennedy
Belt Contender
Career record: 163-79
Season: 51-19 (#168)
Location: montreal
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Posted by AchillesHeel
I haven't done a Top 20 myself, but here's HDNet Fights "Inside MMA" Top 25. They have 10 UFC guys, only 2 of whom are in the Top 10. And I think some more of the IFL guys will crack this list once they start fighting people besides each other.
1 BJ Penn
2 Takanori Gomi
3 Eddie Alvarez
4 Tatsuya Kawajiri
5 Gesias Calvancante
6 Vitor Ribeiro
7 Sean Sherk
8 Josh Thomson
9 Joachim Hansen
10 Shinya Aoki
11 Gilbert Melendez
12 Mitsuhiro Ishida
13 Roger Huerta
14 Kenny Florian
15 Joe Stevenson
16 Tyson Griffin
17 Jamie Varner
18 Ryan Schultz
19 Gray Maynard
20 KJ Noons
21 Nick Diaz
22 Nate Diaz
23 Frank Edgar
24 Caol Uno
25 Spencer Fisher
i got edgar a litle bit higher but good rankings
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Post #10 7/25/08 4:42:14PM
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mkiv9secsupra
MMA Sensei
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Posted by Buddharox
Rankings aren't determined by fantasy match-ups. Just because Sherk "could" beat those other guys doesn't mean you bump him up that high.
So rankings are determined by who has fought most recently? NO....
Rankings are determined by skill which is observed in recent fights and who you have beaten. A fighters timeline of action should not directly affect a fighters ranking unless there has been a huge layoff. Sherk lost to BJ who many felt was the number 1 LW.
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Post #11 7/25/08 4:44:33PM
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I'm a LEAD FARMER MOTHA F*CKER
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Career record: 135-93
Season: 39-31 (#2217)
Location: Denver, Colorado Birthplace of the UFC
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1 BJ Penn
2 Sean Sherk
3 Takanori Gomi
4 Joachim Hansen
5 Shinya Aoki
6 Eddie Alvarez
7 Kenny Florian
8 Gesias Calvancanti
9 Joe Stevenson
10 Nick Diaz
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Broncos will go 11-5
4-0 av bets
He's been known to cure narcalepsy by just walking into a room. His orgin donation card list his beard. He is a lover not a fighter but he's also a fighter so don't get any idea's
he is SpiderSilva
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Post #12 7/25/08 4:49:31PM
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RIP Evan Tanner 1971-2008
Career record: 108-58
Season: 44-26 (#796)
Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
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the ufc lw fighters deserve more respect
penn
sherk
gomi
huerta
florian
thomson
alvarez
hansen
griffin
aoki
the reason i have huerta florian thomson so high is because they haven't been beatin by the fighters below them. all the crazy shit in the gp forced me to take jz and my guy melendez out of the top 10 and put aoki at 10 in case your thinking wtf is this guy thinking.
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Post #13 7/25/08 6:02:37PM
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ko-kbo130
MMA Regular
Career record: 100-65
Season: 29-22 (#4441)
Location: long island
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I only have 2 UFC LW breaking the top 10.
1 BJ Penn
2 Takanori Gomi
3 Gesias Calvancanti
4 Joachim Hansen
5 Eddie Alvarez
6 Sean Sherk
7 Shinya Aoki
8 Tatsuya Kawajiri
9 Mitsuhiro Ishida
10 Josh Thomson
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Post #14 7/25/08 7:13:49PM
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GREENMAN!!!!
Career record: 134-73
Season: 50-20 (#178)
Location: selden, new york
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BJ Penn
Gomi...unfortunately
Alvarez
Aoki
JZ
Kawajiri
Sherk
Hansen
Griffin
Ishida
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