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milfhunter
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 43-35
Season: 34-25 (#3568)
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I think Hermes takes this one as his size will play a factor. Edgra had trouble with Maynard who is a bigger 155er.. Edgar has the wrestling and Franca has the submissions.. Whats everyones take on this one?
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Post #1 7/19/08 10:43:08AM
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Diamondback2
MMA Regular
Career record: 165-82
Season: 45-25 (#1896)
Location: Michigan
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i'm going with franca on this one.
edgar is smaller, and franca's submission are top notch.
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Post #2 7/19/08 11:25:52AM
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mkiv9secsupra
MMA Sensei
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Career record: 211-136
Season: 41-29 (#1810)
Location: ATL, GA
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On the feet it will look like Fisher vs Franca but with Edgar getting KTFO and if Edgar wants to take it to the ground hes going to get subitted probably with a triangle choke
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Post #3 7/19/08 11:28:17AM
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Cdellorso
Standup Guy
Career record: 138-98
Season: 49-21 (#607)
Location: Grand Blanc MI
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Franca- edgars wrestling is not as good as Sherks was...
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Post #4 7/19/08 12:07:10PM
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Hit me with those laser beams!
Career record: 236-111
Season: 53-17 (#11)
Location: Morrison, CO
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I actually see Edgar better in the striking (maybe not as powerful, but more accurate). And if things aren't going as well there, he'll just take Franca down at will. If he stays away from the submissin, which I think he will, he wins a UD. Also, don't be surprised if conditioning plays a factor. Edgar will for sure be able to go all 3 rounds... Franca will more than likely gas out.
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Accolades:
UFC 70: Nations Collide: 18 points #2978 out of 3669
UFC 81: Breaking Point: 28 points #5248 out of 7305
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Post #5 7/19/08 12:22:32PM
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jomatty
In Full Mount
Career record: 67-42
Season: 5-7 (#8043)
Location: c-ville va
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i also think there is a good chance that edgar will grind out a decision. in what little ive seen his sub defense looks really good and i think he will be able to stay on top and grind out a UD. hermes is good though and there is always the chance that he will catch him with a submission or knock him out but im picking edgar
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Post #6 7/19/08 1:18:23PM
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Chuteboxer
MMA Regular
Career record: 106-65
Season: 19-12 (#6272)
Location: Haymarket, VA
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I have no idea who wins this fight...I wanna say Edgar, but Franca's a danger to whoever he faces so I have no idea.
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Post #7 7/19/08 1:19:19PM
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casketcoin
MMA Regular
Career record: 104-65
Season: 38-30 (#3044)
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Posted by npayant
I actually see Edgar better in the striking (maybe not as powerful, but more accurate). And if things aren't going as well there, he'll just take Franca down at will. If he stays away from the submissin, which I think he will, he wins a UD. Also, don't be surprised if conditioning plays a factor. Edgar will for sure be able to go all 3 rounds... Franca will more than likely gas out.
i disagree. I like edgar but i think his striking isnowhere close to hermes....of course hermes has good submissions but sometimes i think people forget and underestimate his hands.I'm not saying this fight will end with a knockout but hermes will win
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Post #8 7/19/08 3:18:16PM
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IriShame
Standup Guy
Career record: 74-52
Season: 42-28 (#1957)
Location: Bellingham, WA
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I could see Edgar pulling out a decision but if the fight ends early it will Franca who finishes it, more than likely by submission.
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Post #9 7/19/08 6:37:53PM
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MuSh
Learning to Sprawl
Career record: 28-18
Season: 16-13 (#5902)
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i'm going with franca by arm bar
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Post #10 7/19/08 7:55:12PM
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Hit me with those laser beams!
Career record: 236-111
Season: 53-17 (#11)
Location: Morrison, CO
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Posted by casketcoin
Posted by npayant
I actually see Edgar better in the striking (maybe not as powerful, but more accurate). And if things aren't going as well there, he'll just take Franca down at will. If he stays away from the submissin, which I think he will, he wins a UD. Also, don't be surprised if conditioning plays a factor. Edgar will for sure be able to go all 3 rounds... Franca will more than likely gas out.
i disagree. I like edgar but i think his striking isnowhere close to hermes....of course hermes has good submissions but sometimes i think people forget and underestimate his hands.I'm not saying this fight will end with a knockout but hermes will win
 I'm sorry you disagreed with me. 
It went almost exactly like I thought!
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Accolades:
UFC 70: Nations Collide: 18 points #2978 out of 3669
UFC 81: Breaking Point: 28 points #5248 out of 7305
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Post #11 7/20/08 1:56:46AM
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KYGUY07
In Full Mount
Career record: 193-102
Season: 42-28 (#1653)
Location: KY
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franca was not impressive at all when he had edgar in his guard he did nothing except the sub attempt in the first he just layed there and did nothiing
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Post #12 7/20/08 7:51:41PM
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Hit me with those laser beams!
Career record: 236-111
Season: 53-17 (#11)
Location: Morrison, CO
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Posted by foottap
every single one of frankies fights in ufc but one went to a decision. he's the machiada of the lw division
Look at who he has fought in the UFC that went to decision --
Tyson Griffin
Spencer Fisher
Gray Maynard
Hermes Franca
All TOP of the heap competition... you don't see many people at this weight class continuously fighting top competition besides the champ and a couple other contenders. Man, I sure wouldn't be ashamed in the slightest if I went 3-1 against this competition, even if it w by decision.
Here's a prime example of what I'm talking about:
Roger Huerta (mister poster boy)
Jason Dent
John Halverson
Leonard Garcia (good, but way smaller than him)
Douglas Evans
Alberto Crane
and finally Clay Guida (by far his best competition and he was getting beat until the sub. in the 3rd round)
So most of these fights were more exciting... but look at the competition difference!!!!
Frankie has good game plans against some of the best and figures out a way to win. Great job, I say!
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Accolades:
UFC 70: Nations Collide: 18 points #2978 out of 3669
UFC 81: Breaking Point: 28 points #5248 out of 7305
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Post #13 7/22/08 1:02:20PM
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Hit me with those laser beams!
Career record: 236-111
Season: 53-17 (#11)
Location: Morrison, CO
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Well maybe we should just throw wrestling out of MIXED martial arts. I can't stand it when people only what to see KOs and submission. Yeah, they're great when they happen, but that's not all what this sport is about.
You're probably one of those guys that starts booing at 4:30 in the first round when the fighters are still trying to get a feel for things. Or when there is a ground "clinic" going on, but you want them stood up just so you can see a KO!
I'd like to see you get in there and fight the competition Frankie has, and try to finish off those guys.
I'm done arguing about this ridiculousness... 
Last edited 7/22/08 1:21PM by npayant
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Accolades:
UFC 70: Nations Collide: 18 points #2978 out of 3669
UFC 81: Breaking Point: 28 points #5248 out of 7305
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Post #14 7/22/08 1:19:41PM
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chrismithers
MMA Regular
Career record: 166-102
Season: 39-24 (#2432)
Location: Illinois
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Posted by foottap
Wrestling should be used to set up ko's, tko's, and submissions. iT should not be the basis of the fight
WHAT? Wrestling should be used to set up ko's, tko's and submissions not the basis of the fight. are you kidding me. this is MIXED Martial Arts buddy they can use whatever the hell they want as long as its not illegal. You obviously have no idea what mma is wrestling is a style that this guy Frankie Edgar has always grown up with why would he change that. It would be like a gracie not using jiu-jitsu in one of their fights. Let them fight how they want to fight its their job no fan should criticize them on how they want to fight.
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Post #15 7/22/08 2:33:53PM
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