Diego Sanches VS Thiago Alves... is this legit?? |
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ChokeUout
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I don't see why people think Diego Can't take alves down. I mean, Karo took him down, with a double leg, not a judo throw. Diego is a better wrestler than Karo. Hughes took him down once, and that's the new Slow, Old Hughes with telegraphed shots. I think Diego's Speed and Intensity will be too much for Alves. Even if Alves shrugs off the first couple takedowns, he's gonna have to bust his ass to make 170, which will take alot out of him. Sanchez will make it easy, which should give him more energy. Plus, Don't count Diego out if the fight remains on the feet for a while. I didn't think He'd have a chance against Luigi if he didn't take him down either. Granted, Alves is a much better striker than Luigi, but just saying, Diego has improved his striking alot, so don't count it out.
I think Alves might take the first round, but after that Diego's conditioning will prevail.
Sanchez via UD, probably 29-28.
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Post #16 7/16/08 12:35:42AM
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billycarnage
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
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We'll just have to see who's right.
Give Diego a little more credit. He is more JJ than Wrestling at this stage in his career and I promise he will find a way.
i 1,000% disagree with that statement. i don't think you are further from the truth. at this stage of his career he has relied way more on his wrestling that his JJ. the last time he has won with an actual submission was more than 4 years ago. these days he relies on his new found love of boxing and his wrestling/GnP.
That's great buddy but I am referring to his FOCUS and he is more JJ right now as he trains with Saul Ribeiro than anything else. His stand up is ever improving and of course he relies on his wrestling which he's been doing his entire life, but BJJ is his main focus at this point in his career and he will looke to finish the fight where ever it goes.
Thiago is more challenging for Diego than Luigi was and Diego is going to give Thiago more problems than Huges could. The longer it lasts the better it'll be for Diego. I think his Killer instinct will give'm the edge.
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Post #17 7/16/08 10:47:45AM
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Jlloyd
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i've got Sanchez to take this, but will certainly be an interesting fight
glad the 89 card is starting to take shape with plenty of big names
Last edited 7/16/08 6:13PM by jlloyd
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Post #18 7/16/08 4:31:24PM
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Posted by billycarnage
That's great buddy but I am referring to his FOCUS and he is more JJ right now as he trains with Saul Ribeiro than anything else. His stand up is ever improving and of course he relies on his wrestling which he's been doing his entire life, but BJJ is his main focus at this point in his career and he will looke to finish the fight where ever it goes.
Thiago is more challenging for Diego than Luigi was and Diego is going to give Thiago more problems than Huges could. The longer it lasts the better it'll be for Diego. I think his Killer instinct will give'm the edge.
well you didn't mention "FOCUS" so i called you out since i have never seen Diego use JJ at a high level once, nor have i seen him do anything else but GnP when it goes to the ground. as a self proclaimed JJ freak, i haven't seen enough from Diego to make me think he will submit Thiago. Thiago will work on his sprawl a lot during this time and i guarantee you he keeps this on the feet and puts Diego out in the second.
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Post #19 7/16/08 6:34:26PM
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billycarnage
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
Posted by billycarnage
That's great buddy but I am referring to his FOCUS and he is more JJ right now as he trains with Saul Ribeiro than anything else. His stand up is ever improving and of course he relies on his wrestling which he's been doing his entire life, but BJJ is his main focus at this point in his career and he will looke to finish the fight where ever it goes.
Thiago is more challenging for Diego than Luigi was and Diego is going to give Thiago more problems than Huges could. The longer it lasts the better it'll be for Diego. I think his Killer instinct will give'm the edge.
well you didn't mention "FOCUS" so i called you out since i have never seen Diego use JJ at a high level once, nor have i seen him do anything else but GnP when it goes to the ground. as a self proclaimed JJ freak, i haven't seen enough from Diego to make me think he will submit Thiago. Thiago will work on his sprawl a lot during this time and i guarantee you he keeps this on the feet and puts Diego out in the second.
My bad.
That could happen but I think that Diego is more likely to sub Thiago than the other way around and I know Thiago is a Black Belt and Diego is a Blue. These are opinions and I love to go back and forth beacause it always happens when there is a good matchup. These guys are ranked 3 and 4 IMO and the winner should get a title shot. If any one can knock out Diego its Thiago. But he will have to bring his A game.
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Post #20 7/16/08 8:03:14PM
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Alves' BJJ is much better than his wrestling, i think its more likely he gets held down and gnp'd then submitted... although i dont think Diego will win this.
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Post #21 7/16/08 8:07:03PM
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Posted by billycarnage
My bad.
That could happen but I think that Diego is more likely to sub Thiago than the other way around and I know Thiago is a Black Belt and Diego is a Blue. These are opinions and I love to go back and forth beacause it always happens when there is a good matchup. These guys are ranked 3 and 4 IMO and the winner should get a title shot. If any one can knock out Diego its Thiago. But he will have to bring his A game.
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alright, i'll PM you on the details. and i have Diego at the very bottom of my top 10, he hasn't done anything lately imo to justify otherwise.
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Post #22 7/16/08 8:29:21PM
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I think Diego is going to take this, his chin is mighty impressive.
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Post #23 7/16/08 11:14:33PM
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Posted by prozacnation1978
they usually weight a while to annouce all the fights give it a couple weeks, but i do think this should be the main event and not bisping vs leban fight
freudian slip there buddy
as for the fight i see diego taking this one
thiago is not getting a title shot cause of his weight issues (the ufc doesn't want another joe riggs or travis lutter scenario) so thiago needs to prove he can not only beat top guys but make the 170
style-wise i think this is a bad match up for thiago. diego has a great pace and his standup can hang w/thiago's. the difference is that he has good shots (especially compared to the current hughes) and great ground control
if thiago could've made weight he might be in the #1 contender's spot
instead he gets a well deserved tough test
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Post #24 7/17/08 3:13:36AM
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Posted by jiujitsufreak74
i 1,000% disagree with that statement. i don't think you are further from the truth. at this stage of his career he has relied way more on his wrestling that his JJ. the last time he has won with an actual submission was more than 4 years ago. these days he relies on his new found love of boxing and his wrestling/GnP.
And that's why I think he doesn't win this fight... If he tries to stand with Alves he's not gonna make it... haven't seen Alves tested on the ground in a long time though...
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Post #25 7/17/08 10:37:21AM
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