Lyoto Machida: "They Prefer Chuck With The Belt" |
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Pitbull09
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Posted by Twenty20Dollars
because machida is boring and chuck is exciting. chuck would beat machida. the end.
I would like to see that fight. I really don't see Chuck taking Machida down and Chuck is usually getting his KO's while a.) hitting a guy try to take him down or b.) hit a guy while backing up. Machida wouldn't charge chuck so I could see him possibly winning.
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Post #16 7/9/08 3:28:23PM
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Dancing Mod With Tha HAND
Career record: 194-134
Season: 31-21 (#3708)
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Machida is not the most appealing fighter out there. His big wins are against Rich Franklin (who fights at 185) a decision win over BJ Penn (who fights at 155. That fights says a lot more about BJ then Machida) and Tito. Tito had a draw to Rashad, lose to Chuck, beat a washed up Shamrock twice and then wins over Griffin and Vitor who many feel both beat him. Oh yea, a win over Soko.
He beat a 26-32-2 Vernon White (Decision) A decision win over the 6-4 Sam Hogar. A decision win over Kengo Wantanbe (who was 7-7 going into that fight) A decision win over Sam Greco who was 1-0-1 going into that fight. Maybe, just maybe, with the UFC trying to blowup and put on great exciting fights, Machida might want to engage a little more.
Machida needs to fight some serious comp. before he gets a title shot. Let him fight wandy or Shogun. Guys with good standup that will press the action.
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Post #17 7/9/08 4:01:51PM
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EON
Banned
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This bothers me since he is the most deserving, it dosnt matter what the fans want, this is to find out whos the greatest fighter, for the average fan this should mean more than a lame high school popularity contest, if were going to have popularity contests lets just put on freak shows like mike tyson vs brock lesner yeah that'll sell tickets
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Post #18 7/9/08 4:18:57PM
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Franklinfan47
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Maybe its just me, but I though Machida had alot of good points.
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Post #19 7/9/08 5:31:46PM
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Dancing Mod With Tha HAND
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Like I said, he needs to earn a title shot. another thing is, he isn't appealing. You might like him, but if another fighter that you didn't like fought the same style as Machida, would you feel the same way? He hasn't faced top comp. Let him fight a wandy or Shougun to get a shot. Beating Soko and Tito doesn't mean you get a title shot.
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Post #20 7/9/08 5:33:54PM
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eyeforeigneye
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Posted by zephead
Like I said, he needs to earn a title shot. another thing is, he isn't appealing. You might like him, but if another fighter that you didn't like fought the same style as Machida, would you feel the same way? He hasn't faced top comp. Let him fight a wandy or Shougun to get a shot. Beating Soko and Tito doesn't mean you get a title shot.
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Post #21 7/9/08 5:39:18PM
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Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
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Post #22 7/9/08 5:41:14PM
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Dancing Mod With Tha HAND
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Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
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Post #23 7/9/08 5:47:44PM
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Laying down the beats
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Posted by zephead
You might like him, but if another fighter that you didn't like fought the same style as Machida, would you feel the same way?
I don't know. For the most part, the only thing to like or dislike about Machida is his fighting style. For the most part he is not an in-your-face kind of fighter (no pun intended) and is generally low key. Most people didn't know who he was until recently. There is also a language barrier which prevents non-Portuguese fans from connecting with his personality.
The way I look at it, there are two types of Machida fans,
1) Those that like his style and would (should) like another fighter that had the same style just as much, provided the other fighter didn't give a different reason for someone to not like them
2) Some fans want to jump on the Machida bandwagon in order to look like an MMA guru by knowing a skilled, but unknown fighter.
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Post #24 7/9/08 5:53:40PM
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EON
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Posted by zephead
Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
shogun who is 0-1, chuck who is 2-2 and wand (one of my favs) is 1-1 since coming back are more deserving? yeah your obviously part of the popularity contest crowd of fans
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Post #25 7/9/08 5:54:36PM
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Dancing Mod With Tha HAND
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Posted by EON
Posted by zephead
Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
shogun who is 0-1, chuck who is 2-2 and wand (one of my favs) is 1-1 since coming back are more deserving? yeah your obviously part of the popularity contest crowd of fans
Yep, that's me. I look at fighters overall record and the comp that they fight. Not hat their the in thing so I better jump on. I would love for Machida to fight any of the three I mentioned, I think he would get hammered
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Post #26 7/9/08 5:56:32PM
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Posted by zephead
Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
Lyoto has destoyed his opponents like noone on your list, and it's certainly no list to sneeze at. He's undefeated. All of those guys are coming off recent losses. Chuck got destroyed twice by the guy who just lost one of the hardest fought dec's we've all ever seen. Wandy lost to Chuck. Shogun lost to Forrest already. All of these being recent, not long ago losses I'm bringing up.
W/ his record the only reason anyone can give for him not to get it is: I don't like his style and I'm afraid he'd win. I'm itching for him to take the title and continue his rampage, tho he'll wind up having to win a few more, no matter. None of those guys have a style that matches up well w/ Machida.
I hate to say Forrest is the worst style matchup for Machida in the current div.
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Post #27 7/9/08 5:57:44PM
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Shoppe
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Posted by zephead
Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
Wandy is 1 - 3 in his four latest fights, with a win over Jardine.
Chuck is 1 - 2 in his three latest fights, with a win over Wand.
Shogun lost his last fight.
Lyoto just beat Tito, who Forrest couln't beat, and Soku who prior to his fight with Machida had wins over Lil Nog and Arona. And you don't think he's more deserving?
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Post #28 7/9/08 5:58:42PM
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EON
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Posted by zephead
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Posted by zephead
Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
shogun who is 0-1, chuck who is 2-2 and wand (one of my favs) is 1-1 since coming back are more deserving? yeah your obviously part of the popularity contest crowd of fans
Yep, that's me. I look at fighters overall record and the comp that they fight. Not hat their the in thing so I better jump on. I would love for Machida to fight any of the three I mentioned, I think he would get hammered
thats not the point, way to stray from the idea, you obviously have a thought out analysis of why you hate him since you have so many posts about how undeserving the top contender in the UFC is so why even bother arguing with you, you should promote mike tyson vs brock lesnar, thats right up your alley
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Post #29 7/9/08 5:59:33PM
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Dancing Mod With Tha HAND
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Posted by JimiMak
Posted by zephead
Posted by JimiMak
Glad to see him speaking his mind. They weren't gonna give him next shot anyway, even tho he is so clearly the most deserving, That's ok, they can't help but give him top 5 guys now (of course they're hoping he'll lose) and when he's run thru all of them he'll have to get his shot. Hell by then it'll prob'ly be somebody he's beaten already.
How is he the most deserving? I think wandy, Shogun and Chuck are way more deserving then he is. They have fought tougher comp
Lyoto has destoyed his opponents like noone on your list, and it's certainly no list to sneeze at. He's undefeated. All of those guys are coming off recent losses. Chuck got destroyed twice by the guy who just lost one of the hardest fought dec's we've all ever seen. Wandy lost to Chuck. Shogun lost to Forrest already. All of these being recent, not long ago losses I'm bringing up.
W/ his record the only reason anyone can give for him not to get it is: I don't like his style and I'm afraid he'd win. I'm itching for him to take the title and continue his rampage, tho he'll wind up having to win a few more, no matter. None of those guys have a style that matches up well w/ Machida.
I hate to say Forrest is the worst style matchup for Machida in the current div.
Who has he destroyed like no one on my list? A decision win over a 26-32 Vernon White who Chuck gave a 3 month headache to? A decision win over Tito who Chuck TKO'd twice? A decsion win over the 155 lb. Champ? A KO ver 185 lb fighter? A dedsion win over Nakumora who is 11-8? He has 8 decision wins in 13 fights with one fight stopped for a cut. He is not destroying people. He is outpointing people.
It has nothing to do with me being afraid of him winning. Wandy, Shogun and Chuck all have recent bodies of work that are way more interesting then Machida. But I do hope he fights one of those three or just go ahead and give him the shot to fight Forrest. Forrest will bring it and bring it.
I think Chuck, Wandy and Shogun have styles that would give him major problems. None of those are going to have sloppy shots. They're not going to throw one punch and then back up. Wandy and Shogun are going to get right in his face and Chuck will stalk him.
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