Affliction: Banned. Best card ever? |
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ObsoleteMan
Learning to Sprawl
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I've heard a lot of people on various boards and some friends of mine talk about how this is the greatest MMA card of all time, and I don't really see it. It has a lot of big names, big names that haven't fought in a while, but the matchmaking is so-so.
Look at the picks overview. All but 1 or 2 fights have underdog bonuses (and one of the two probably might have one soon, since it just went up). Are any of these wins going to move anyone on the rankings? (wins alone. I mean, Barnett'll probably move up if Tim gets slaughtered, but he would've without fighting) Clearly, not many people think these fights are gonna be very close, and isn't that what makes a fight great? The back and forth, the tension because the fight could go either way at any moment, etc. Lop-sided beatings are good for highlight reels, I guess, but I rarely walk away from one thinking "Man, that fight was for the ages."
That said. I'm still buying it, and it's still a lot better than UFN 14:Short Notice. And the next Affliction card should be epic, assuming they match some of the winners up, but just having big names on this one doesn't make it a great card.
So, am I a crazy UFC nut-hugger, or do others feel the same?
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Post #1 7/3/08 8:04:37PM
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TWITA
MMA Regular
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Post #2 7/3/08 8:06:48PM
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cmill21
Heavyweight Champ
Career record: 145-75
Season: 12-4 (#2629)
Location: Regina SK
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Best one since Final conflict 2005 IMO.
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Post #3 7/3/08 8:37:59PM
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Ridin the MMA WW since 02 !
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Posted by cmill21
Best one since Final conflict 2005 IMO.
No Way, Shockwave 04 
I just loved Shokewave 04 for some reason and I also remember Bushido 9 as being sick. Final Conflict 05 definatly answered questions
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Post #4 7/3/08 8:59:52PM
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cmill21
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Posted by hotrodttt
Posted by cmill21
Best one since Final conflict 2005 IMO.
No Way, Shockwave 04
I just loved Shokewave 04 for some reason and I also remember Bushido 9 as being sick. Final Conflict 05 definatly answered questions
Oh man we could talk all day about the awsome everts pride put on .
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Post #5 7/3/08 9:19:54PM
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jae_1833
MMA Sensei
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I really think Affliction will have to grab all the other Pride standouts and some others from EliteXC, and Strikeforce if they want to really compete with the UFC.....my god Affliction looks like it only has 3 weight classes. How about building up a roster before stating that it's going to be the next Pride. Pride was soo great back in the day because of it's roster (same with UFC today) and the endless match-ups that were available. (Plus the rules rocked except for the lack of elbows, but a fair trade never the less!)
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Post #6 7/3/08 9:44:35PM
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Got Head!
Career record: 148-62
Season: 14-7 (#578)
Location: Oklahoma
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Depends on the person if HWs is your thing then its a good card if it isn't then it will be just a fair card to you. I agree with the TS I think a lot of the fights are very lopsided. The big thing is were do they go from here. Fedor or Tim vs someone else 3-5 months from now. That means be lucky to get 3-4 shows a year. I also don't think their PPV buys are going to be near as good as they are hopping for. I really don't see them last more than 2-3 shows with the money they are paying out.
Last edited 7/4/08 12:32AM by telnights
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Post #7 7/4/08 12:30:59AM
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MMAcca
MMA Sensei
Career record: 143-78
Season: 13-8 (#1795)
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Too many one sided fights and mismatches for me to consider it one of th ebest cards ever.
Sure it's got some big names on it, but big names don't always make good fights.......
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Post #8 7/4/08 12:58:51AM
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Mchubb316
Belt Contender
Career record: 186-102
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Posted by MMAcca
Too many one sided fights and mismatches for me to consider it one of th ebest cards ever.
Sure it's got some big names on it, but big names don't always make good fights.......
I can't say if it is the best card ever, because the fights have not happened yet. On paper, yes they have a lot of top 10 fighters. I wait until the event is over to determine if the card was good or not. For Affliction's sake they better hope this card lives up to the hype, or they will be a short lived promotion.
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Post #9 7/4/08 1:32:56AM
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Ridin the MMA WW since 02 !
Career record: 121-64
Season: 17-4 (#9)
Location: Long Beach
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Posted by cmill21
Posted by hotrodttt
Posted by cmill21
Best one since Final conflict 2005 IMO.
No Way, Shockwave 04
I just loved Shokewave 04 for some reason and I also remember Bushido 9 as being sick. Final Conflict 05 definatly answered questions
Oh man we could talk all day about the awsome everts pride put on .
And it wasn't just the Fights, it was the dim of the lights at the beginning and the crazy lady speaking. And Takada and his goons would bang their Taikos to the Pride theme. And I also loved the Music after the Fights over with. Also the platforms that the fighters were announced on were pretty bad ass 
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MMA Playground Top 25's
Top Score: TUF 6 Finale- # 10
Top Score: K-1 Olympia- # 23
Top Score: StrikeForce PBM- # 6
Top Score: Cage Rage 25- # 7
Top Score: Cage Rage 26- # 4
Top Score: UFC 87- #12
Top Score: L2 Season 2- #9
Top Earner: Dream 1- # 6
Top Earner: Cage Rage 25- # 7
Top Earner: UFC 87- #17
11 Underdog Bonus Wins
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Post #10 7/4/08 1:34:56AM
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EON
Banned
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Post #11 7/4/08 1:50:18AM
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Pookie
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I actually thought UFC 84 was one of the best cards ever... but this card is definitely a must-see.
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Post #12 7/4/08 3:56:59AM
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loller90278
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Posted by hotrodttt
Posted by cmill21
Posted by hotrodttt
Posted by cmill21
Best one since Final conflict 2005 IMO.
No Way, Shockwave 04
I just loved Shokewave 04 for some reason and I also remember Bushido 9 as being sick. Final Conflict 05 definatly answered questions
Oh man we could talk all day about the awsome everts pride put on .
And it wasn't just the Fights, it was the dim of the lights at the beginning and the crazy lady speaking. And Takada and his goons would bang their Taikos to the Pride theme. And I also loved the Music after the Fights over with. Also the platforms that the fighters were announced on were pretty bad ass
a single tear just rolled down my cheek 
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Post #13 7/4/08 4:51:32AM
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ThaAxeMurderer7
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Posted by Pookie
I actually thought UFC 84 was one of the best cards ever... but this card is definitely a must-see.
UFC 84 had it all. In my opinion it was the greatest card ever.
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Post #14 7/5/08 12:53:22AM
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mikevolz
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pride 33
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