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tommyprairie
MMA Regular
Career record: 118-67
Season: 20-10 (#1685)
Location: NH
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It seems like BS that when someone does not make weight (Alves) then the opponent (Hughes) is put on the burner to decide to fight or not. If you fight then you are at a disadvantage of fighting out of your weight class (If you do not think 2 or 3 lbs is a big deal, it is). If you do not fight then you are looked at as a coward by fans.
I am not a hughes fan, but in the past when someone didnt make weight they ended up losing. The UFC needs to not put the pressure on fighter, and pay him for showing, fine the fighter that missed weight, and book him on the next show.
-My 2 cents
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Post #1 7/3/08 7:31:02PM
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aaa9erh8er
Standup Guy
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Career record: 94-61
Season: 16-14 (#4413)
Location: 707 CALi
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 100% these guys are profesinal fighters key word professionals there life id to fight if you dont take it seiously enuff to make weight you dont deserve to be in top lovel contention. when i wrystled that was unaceptable
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Post #2 7/3/08 7:40:45PM
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juanez13
Heavyweight Champ
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Career record: 129-68
Season: 21-9 (#280)
Location: who's asking?
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well there is compensation if a fighter agrees to fight on a catch weight, most of the time is from 11% to 13% of the other fighters Pay.......there isnt much to do after that, some things you just cant control, Alves didnt make weight because he had sprained his ankle a couple weeks before the fight, so his weight when up in those days he couldnt train, and couldnt cut all that extra weight in time....there isnt really a way to control that, so taking a bit of their money will teach them a lesson, they just cant scrap the fight because now they dont have a main event, and there would be a whole lot of people pissed off, which would hurt the company alot.....
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Post #3 7/3/08 7:42:12PM
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tommyprairie
MMA Regular
Career record: 118-67
Season: 20-10 (#1685)
Location: NH
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If he is too hurt to make weight, too hurt to fight. Sauna, Drilling, arm bike?
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Post #4 7/3/08 8:53:37PM
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The Female Prodigy
Career record: 134-77
Season: 19-11 (#1056)
Location: So Cal.
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2 to 3 lbs is a 10 minute break in ther craper. on TUF when the guy did not make weight he was sent home, why cant the same rule apply here.
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Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war and my fingers to fight. Psalm 144:1...................WAR BJ
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Post #5 7/3/08 9:17:20PM
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The Female Prodigy
Career record: 134-77
Season: 19-11 (#1056)
Location: So Cal.
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That story about a spraind ankle is crap anyway, you can still do some thing to lose weight. Why are these guys such big sissys and I mean in all of sports, I remember spraining my ankle a lot of times and just walking it off in a few minutes.
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Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war and my fingers to fight. Psalm 144:1...................WAR BJ
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Post #6 7/3/08 9:20:45PM
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postman
MMA Sensei
Career record: 125-77
Season: 18-12 (#2021)
Location: Delmont ,Pa
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Posted by tommyprairie
It seems like BS that when someone does not make weight (Alves) then the opponent (Hughes) is put on the burner to decide to fight or not. If you fight then you are at a disadvantage of fighting out of your weight class (If you do not think 2 or 3 lbs is a big deal, it is). If you do not fight then you are looked at as a coward by fans.
I am not a hughes fan, but in the past when someone didnt make weight they ended up losing. The UFC needs to not put the pressure on fighter, and pay him for showing, fine the fighter that missed weight, and book him on the next show.
-My 2 cents
Let me start off by saying i agree that guys need to make weight and that is bs when they don't. But 2 or 3 pounds is not a big deal. I train with guys 40 lbs bigger then me and school them all the time. Fedor fought Choi and there was 100 lbs diff. Every time Royce fought he was lighter then his opp.
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Post #7 7/3/08 10:11:04PM
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tommyprairie
MMA Regular
Career record: 118-67
Season: 20-10 (#1685)
Location: NH
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but the match makers try and set up guys that are even. One guys cutting weighta nd one guy eating changes things. With the resources available they try and get the matchups as lose to even as possible
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Post #8 7/3/08 11:03:04PM
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Pookie
MMA Sensei
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Career record: 174-81
Season: 23-7 (#344)
Location: 707
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Posted by holt8081
That story about a spraind ankle is crap anyway, you can still do some thing to lose weight. Why are these guys such big sissys and I mean in all of sports, I remember spraining my ankle a lot of times and just walking it off in a few minutes.
you must not have sprained your ankle that bad, ive sprained it to the point that i couldnt walk on it for weeks... my ankle swollen to the size of a baseball.
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Post #9 7/4/08 1:01:42AM
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king_katool
MMA Regular
Career record: 51-39
Season: 20-10 (#1491)
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Posted by Pookie
Posted by holt8081
That story about a spraind ankle is crap anyway, you can still do some thing to lose weight. Why are these guys such big sissys and I mean in all of sports, I remember spraining my ankle a lot of times and just walking it off in a few minutes.
you must not have sprained your ankle that bad, ive sprained it to the point that i couldnt walk on it for weeks... my ankle swollen to the size of a baseball.
i snaped my ankle in half completely just muscle holding it together, my stupid ass thought it was sprained well its friday so i go out party all weekend and sunday finally go to the hospital, i could still walk on it but i think the liqour had an affect.... and i am now the proud owner of 9 inch metal and 7 screws in my ankle
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Post #10 7/4/08 1:11:43AM
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EON
Banned
Career record: 50-24
Season: 15-7 (#2682)
Location: Amsterdam
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This whole weight issue is blown way out of proportion. I'm not upset at what Dana's doing its only another fight that would improve his legitimacy and get more exposure. Thiago is going to knock Diego out anyway, this is an easy pick for me tbh, look at their common opponent in Karo, this is win win for me because then he'll get the winner of GSP/Fitch. (Then again if Thiago loses then it was the right decision on Dana's part then)
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Post #11 7/4/08 1:36:53AM
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Pitbull09
MMA Sensei
Career record: 113-53
Season: 22-7 (#467)
Location: PA
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Idk why ppl won;t let this go. Do you hate Alves or are major Hughes nut huggers? Even if you argue 2-3 lbs is a big difference, your forgetting that the fighters have a whole day to gain more weight back so don;t act like that had anything to contribute to Hughes loss. Second, don't challenge Alves as not being professional. He won 7 straight in that division now and doesn't need idiots to flame him for not lossing 2-3lbs before a fight (injury or not).
I am not saying that weigh ins shouldnt be taken seriously but this particular situation is stupid to talk about. Title fights are strict to the rules so to me, thats what matters most.
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Post #12 7/4/08 2:04:51AM
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