Why Did Kimbo Choose MMA Over Boxing? |
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holt8081
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Kimbo would be destroyed by a medium to top level MMA fighter just as he would against a medium to top level boxer. Link
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Post #1 6/28/08 12:51:48AM
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Ben_Hutch
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He chose MMA because he can be shit, and stil get a ridiculous amount of money, unlike boxing.
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Post #2 6/28/08 12:56:08AM
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jae_1833
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If you look at his stand up it's actually pretty sloppy....he's got an outstanding overhand....lot's of power....but horrible foot work and head movement. Those two things are much more key in a boxing match than with MMA.
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Post #3 6/28/08 1:07:06AM
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Sam_Rothstein
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I personally think he went with mma because of the gloves.
Im not sure how good those hands would be with the 10 lbs on
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Post #4 6/28/08 1:14:05AM
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seanfu
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Agreed, boxing is a new level of striker. Streetfighting only showed that he had great attributes and SOME boxing fundamentals.
He has good head movement and power but is a little immobile, comes straight foreward, and swings wide.
In MMA (HEEAVYYWEIIGHTT) you can get away with being a poor striker but he needs a solid ground game.
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Post #5 6/28/08 2:37:21AM
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The-Don
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Posted by seanfu
Agreed, boxing is a new level of striker. Streetfighting only showed that he had great attributes and SOME boxing fundamentals.
He has good head movement and power but is a little immobile, comes straight foreward, and swings wide.
In MMA (HEEAVYYWEIIGHTT) you can get away with being a poor striker but he needs a solid ground game.
Sadly thoguh I think kimbo is still 2-3 years away from having a solid ground game...
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Post #6 6/28/08 3:11:14AM
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Raykill
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Posted by The-Don
Posted by seanfu
Agreed, boxing is a new level of striker. Streetfighting only showed that he had great attributes and SOME boxing fundamentals.
He has good head movement and power but is a little immobile, comes straight foreward, and swings wide.
In MMA (HEEAVYYWEIIGHTT) you can get away with being a poor striker but he needs a solid ground game.
Sadly thoguh I think kimbo is still 2-3 years away from having a solid ground game...
I don’t think it’s going to matter. I don’t see Kimbo in this sport 2-3 years from now. Gary will use him like he’s doing right now to create momentum for his show and then drop him when he starts rolling. I don’t think he will be picked up by another organization after that.
But what do I know? I thought you died from pop rocks and soda. I looked pretty stupid when the combination didn’t work on my ex-wife.
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Post #7 6/28/08 4:04:19AM
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MODesty
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Well Kimbo's stand up is fair at best. I don't even think he could win Golden Gloves level boxing matches more less pro. I also think his power is more of a myth than anything. TKOing Tank and JT (JT really doesnt count because JT won that fight the Ref just gave it to Kimbo) isn't saying much and if you watch his youtube stuff you will see he really didn't knock anyone out there either. I'm not really sure why he chose MMA maybe because of the fact its easy to get big money without a lot of work. Also it doesn't take really any fights to become pro and MMA is the big thing right now. Also my guess would be no one want to promote him real heave in boxing because you cant make big money in boxing having someone fight cans unless your name is Tyson. I have been out of training for 2 years and I think with 7 weeks training I could beat Kimbo. But I don't really blame Kimbo he knows he needs a lot of work and he is just in it for the money its mainly the Shaw's that are making Kimbo out to be more than he is. It also doesn't help that most of the press is playing right along with. Like SI putting Kimbo on the cover when the fact is he isn't even a mid level MMA fighter.
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Post #8 6/28/08 6:19:26AM
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AchillesHeel
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Because MMA is more fun.
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Post #9 6/28/08 8:26:33AM
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The-Don
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Some good points above... But I actually do see Kimbo around in a fewa years.. with Elite XC or any of the bigger groups... NO... But he will putter around a few years I think in some of the smaller shows around the country and the world.. Unless his skills inprove dramaticly he'll fade away fighting the occasional freak fight like if he steps into teh ring with Butterbean or guys like that... we'll hear of it... Persoanlly I think training with BAs is not good for him.. Nothing against Bas as a trainer.. but it seems like to me he is being coddeled there and treated like he is a top teir guy... he needs to get his own prespective on how good he is really not and train in a gym where people hold some contempt for him and realize that he has ALOT to learn still.. and that might make him train harder to earn the respect of those around him... He seems like a nice guy... I feel bad for him he is being USED this way... but if wants to be thought of as a top teir guy he needs to train differently and then start fighting guys who can beat him.. big deal if he gets few losses.. he'll learn from them.. JT was supposed to roll over for him the 1st round which is why he was picked and we saw how that turned out... I wonder what Kimbo really thinks and not what he is told to think...
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Post #10 6/28/08 1:29:19PM
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dust
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Posted by The-Don
Posted by seanfu
Agreed, boxing is a new level of striker. Streetfighting only showed that he had great attributes and SOME boxing fundamentals.
He has good head movement and power but is a little immobile, comes straight foreward, and swings wide.
In MMA (HEEAVYYWEIIGHTT) you can get away with being a poor striker but he needs a solid ground game.
Sadly thoguh I think kimbo is still 2-3 years away from having a solid ground game...
He'll never have a ground game. People like Pete Spratt have been training for many years and still suck against good competition.
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Post #11 6/28/08 2:20:09PM
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Figsak
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Possibly.
Some ppl are just naturally good at some things, like throwing a punch, or wreslting, and some ppl will never be good at certain things no matter how much ppl school them, like math, or talking to girls.
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Post #12 6/28/08 3:12:09PM
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JimiMak
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Posted by Sam_Rothstein
I personally think he went with mma because of the gloves.
Im not sure how good those hands would be with the 10 lbs on
10lbs? noone throws w/ 10lbs... 16oz maybe
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Post #13 6/28/08 4:56:31PM
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Sam_Rothstein
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Posted by JimiMak
Posted by Sam_Rothstein
I personally think he went with mma because of the gloves.
Im not sure how good those hands would be with the 10 lbs on
10lbs? noone throws w/ 10lbs... 16oz maybe
I mean to say 10 oz. Thats what they use in pro boxing matches, not 16 oz
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Post #14 6/29/08 12:50:07AM
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EliasG
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Actually I don't think Kimbo's footwork is bad. His head movement isn't bad either. I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Heavyweights are notoriously bad about "footwork" and even great heavyweights can be plodding. THe issue is in footwork is defensive, balance for combinations, and step offs to the side. He does all of those things and I can think of at least 20 heavyweights that don't. He doesn't throw "wide" shots, in fact he throws a lot of body shots and over hand rights. I've seen him throw left hooks but that doesn't make him "wide". Most of his punches are actually what you would call "short" in boxing. He throws uppercuts, right crosses, overhand rights, and fights between the shoulders and pulls his hands back. Are you guys watching the same fights or just making stuff up?
He can get a bigger name quicker in MMA that's why he took it. It's also why it was offered. In boxing, there is a lot more to wade through. Of course, if he can make a big enough legit name in mma (mid level competition) then he can switch over to boxing too and make money. I mean if someone came to you and said, hey you can make money on showtime right now or you can work your way up through 'ballroom boxing' to espn shows which one will you take? He is the MMA butterbean, but let's not forget---butterbean can be very fun to watch. ;)
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Post #15 6/29/08 3:33:08PM
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