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HMA123
MMA Regular
Career record: 30-20
Season: 24-17 (#4688)
Location: Trenton,New Jersey
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every time i shoot in for a takedown, (single/double) most of the time they sprawl to quick.. i have my technique down. but does anyone have any drills for speed and to be more explosive when taking a shot.. or a good setup to a takedown.. any help will be appreciated
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Post #1 6/26/08 10:45:54PM
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The People's Mod
Career record: 152-91
Season: 47-23 (#137)
Location: Getting choked out or arm barred
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Where does the problem lie specifically? Are they shooting and getting to the side for the whizzer, or are they dropping on top of you and putting your head in the mat? Also, is this specifically wrestling/JJ or is it in an MMA context?
Those are a couple things you might want to put more in depth just to clarify so we can give you a good answer.
Basically you could be not shooting in deep enough, not setting up your shots properly, or a number of other things. What it sounds like right now is that you're telegraphing your shots a bit too much.
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Post #2 6/26/08 11:45:52PM
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HMA123
MMA Regular
Career record: 30-20
Season: 24-17 (#4688)
Location: Trenton,New Jersey
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grappling.. but i mean when i shoot in,i guess im not exploding enough or my shots are telegraphed im not sure really what it is, because when im just practicing my takedowns or working on shoots, there prettty fast, but when comes on an actual grappling match, i dont no what happens
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Post #3 6/27/08 12:46:53AM
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The People's Mod
Career record: 152-91
Season: 47-23 (#137)
Location: Getting choked out or arm barred
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You're probably telegraphing them, then.
Keep a careful eye on yourself and do some shots in the mirror. Try to surprise even yourself when you shoot. One of the tendencies I have is to not return my elbow tight to my side after I throw a hook. I try to correct this by doing a lot of shadow boxing and consciously reminding myself on every one to return it tight to my side. It takes a lot of work and muscle memory, but eventually it'll get there.
Same thing for you and your shots. Look for little nuances- hands dropping low before the shot is common, going from your toes to flat footed just before you shoot, or maybe even something as simple as a facial gesture before you shoot. The only real way to find out is to critique yourself in the mirror and to ask your training partners.
Another thing- when you shoot in for a double make sure you're really bumping their hips back with your shoulders. You want to shoot through your opponent and then up and over to the side. That way he's off balance. I like to practice shots on a heavy bag because I can really feel when I get that good shoulder bump in.
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"It is a shame that in this society we've been taught to judge a man's worth by what he owns instead of who he is." - Evan Tanner
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Post #4 6/27/08 8:18:01AM
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artofdefense
MMA Regular
Career record: 52-46
Season: 30-33 (#3946)
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Exactly, you need to makes sure that your lead leg is past his before you change levels and roll the lead knee over.
Also, a good tug on the upper body, (shoulders or neck) should upset their balance enough to slow their sprawl down a second or so before you shoot.
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Post #5 6/27/08 8:53:05AM
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HMA123
MMA Regular
Career record: 30-20
Season: 24-17 (#4688)
Location: Trenton,New Jersey
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alrite thanks to both
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Post #6 6/27/08 10:06:53AM
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Ben_Hutch
Banned
Career record: 116-73
Season: 45-25 (#1674)
Location: London
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Maybe try strengthening your calf muscles, this will help you spring faster. Also make sure it's not obvious that you're going to shoot for the takedown. A great example (though not the same) is Rashad vs. Sean Salmon. Evans was putting his hand out as though he was going to throw a punch, then BOOM, in came the kick, Sean nver saw it coming.
Last edited 6/27/08 11:50AM by Ben_Hutch
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Post #7 6/27/08 11:48:51AM
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Dancing Mod With Tha HAND
Career record: 194-134
Season: 31-21 (#3708)
Location: Maryland
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Do you have bullets in the gun???
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Post #8 6/27/08 3:01:06PM
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The-Don
In Full Mount
Career record: 107-88
Season: 40-30 (#1957)
Location: TN
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Posted by Jackelope
You're probably telegraphing them, then.
Keep a careful eye on yourself and do some shots in the mirror. Try to surprise even yourself when you shoot. One of the tendencies I have is to not return my elbow tight to my side after I throw a hook. I try to correct this by doing a lot of shadow boxing and consciously reminding myself on every one to return it tight to my side. It takes a lot of work and muscle memory, but eventually it'll get there.
Same thing for you and your shots. Look for little nuances- hands dropping low before the shot is common, going from your toes to flat footed just before you shoot, or maybe even something as simple as a facial gesture before you shoot. The only real way to find out is to critique yourself in the mirror and to ask your training partners.
Another thing- when you shoot in for a double make sure you're really bumping their hips back with your shoulders. You want to shoot through your opponent and then up and over to the side. That way he's off balance. I like to practice shots on a heavy bag because I can really feel when I get that good shoulder bump in.
Some great advice there... another thing to figure out what your doing... ask your training parters how they are able to catch you wen you shoot in.. ask them seperatly.. more then likely they will give you what your tell is... and then you can work on correcting it..
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Post #9 6/27/08 4:31:16PM
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